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Clare

Clare Report 18 Jun 2014 22:37

looking for information on a Miss Johan Peter who gave birth to a boy(my grandad)on 21st april 1935.She gave birth in Sheffield but lived in Blackpool.Any info on what happened to her or her family history please get in touch.Clare

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 18 Jun 2014 22:47

Hi Clare, and welcome to the boards.
Can I just ask you how you know where Johan lived - do you happen to have an address for her there? (I assume you are 100% sure of the spelling - this name sounds European, Dutch maybe??).
Jan

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Jun 2014 22:50

If you look on FreeBMD, you'll see the marriage of a Johan Peter in Scarborough in 1955.
Maybe worth investigating, as it's such an unusual name. (Also listed with the alternative surname of Atkinson.)

jax

jax Report 18 Jun 2014 22:53

There is someone who has a Johan Peter born 1909 in his tree.....might be worth a message, he looks to be a fairly new member

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Jun 2014 22:59

Johan can be a Scottish name.

There's this birth in Scotland,(possibly the person in the tree Jax mentioned) just as a suggestion, as I can't see the birth of a Johan Peter in England/Wales:

1909 PETER JOHAN F
BERVIE OR INVERBERVIE /KINCARDINE 254/00 0041


If you buy credits on ScotlandsPeople, you can view/print the image of the birth cert, and see details of her parents.

She doesn't appear to have married in Scotland, nor died there with the surname Peter.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Jun 2014 23:01


First name(s) JOHAN
Last name WADDELL
Gender Unknown
Birth day 2
Birth month 8
Birth year 1909
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1977
District SCARBOROUGH
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 2
Page 2152

jax

jax Report 18 Jun 2014 23:11


Marriages Sep 1963 (>99%)

ATKINSON JOHAN WADDELL STOKE 9B 1671

WADDELL FREDERICK A ATKINSON STOKE 9B 1671

Death of 1st husband


Deaths Jun 1957 (>99%)

ATKINSON Percival 68 Scarbro' 1b 779

Mike *

Mike * Report 18 Jun 2014 23:20

Can I just ask if it's definitely JOHAN.. Not Johanna or Joan ?

reason I asked is there is a marriage to Mr Atkinson and also this death


Deaths Mar 1970

ATKINSON Johanna Mary - 14Fe1895 - Blackpool 10b 1803

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Jun 2014 23:24

After 1935 so maybe????



UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Johan Peter
Name: Johan Peter
Gender: Female
Age: 32
Birth Date: abt 1905
Departure Date: 21 Aug 1937
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Montreal, Canada
Ship Name: Aurania
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Aurania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard White Star Limited
Official Number: 147277
Master: S E Stubbs

jax

jax Report 18 Jun 2014 23:34

The person who has Johan in his tree, looks to be her grandson

There is a birth in 1938 for Atkinson/Peter who looks to be his mother

Johan and Percival Atkinson didn't marry until 1955 but she had been using his name going by the marriage details


If you want to contact the tree owner

Go to search top of the screen

select search all members trees

put in Johan Peter 1909

search

Click on find out more next to his name and send a message.....his name is Paul

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 19 Jun 2014 11:48

I'll let Clare know that she has replies to her query. :-)

jax

jax Report 19 Jun 2014 14:21

Catherine

I looked at the image of that passenger list.... think it could be a mistranscription....Looks like Lilian Paton to me??

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Jun 2014 22:50

I agree, Jax - it's Lilian, though I find the surname too faint to read at all.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Jun 2014 23:17

Just in case we've been following a false trail, here's another Johan Peter:


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Johan Peter
Name: Johan Peter
Probate Date: 9 Mar 1946
Death Date: 15 Jan 1946
Death Place: Perth, Scotland
Registry: Llandudno

Peter or Peters Johan, otherwise Joan, of Easterhill, Pitcullen, Perth, died 15th January 1946. Confirmation of Robert Martin Bates, solicitor, James Patrick Martin Bates, and Robert Stuart Martin Bates. Sealed Llandudno 9 March.

Clare

Clare Report 28 Jun 2014 13:48

Thanks for everyones replies,all the information we have is off my Grandads birth certificate,her address is 128 Bentral Drive Blackpool but his birth was registered in Sheffield.There is a line put through anything regarding his father so no info there and I'm presuming she was unmarried she has no title on the certificate her name I spelt as it is on the document.

jax

jax Report 28 Jun 2014 13:52

Clare

Have you tried to make contact with the tree owner I mentioned?

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 28 Jun 2014 13:55

I think the address should be Central Drive

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?source=search_app#q=central+drive+blackpool

Clare

Clare Report 29 Jun 2014 14:06

Have contacted the tree owner so just waiting for a reply,thanks for everyones help. :-)