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1. My James Martin is quoted on library microfiche as having married Rebecca 10th Jun 1821 and they had following children:
William 1826, Henry 1827, James 1829, George 1831, Joseph 1835, Elizabeth 1836 and Charles 1838.
2. This is agreed by at least three other trees HOWEVER........
3. My James was born in 1800 and theirs circa 1795.
4. Additionally, the parents of my James are James Martin 1773 and Mary Henshaw 1775 BUT THEIRS are John Martin c1777 and Sarah Cutts 1775.
5. Surely it must be one heck of a coincidence for James n Rebecca plus their 7 children on more than one tree WITH TWO DIFFERENT members of their family as shown in 4 above.
Hope I haven't confused everyone as much as I've confused myself.
R

You don't say where. Is this them in 1841? But remember that ages of those over 15 on the 1841 census are rounded down to nearest 5 or 0 so James could have been born 1797-1801 and Rebecca 1792-1796.

1841 England Census
about Charles Martin Name: Charles Martin
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Basford
Hundred: Broxtow (North Division)
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Basford
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 856
Book: 5
Folio: 19
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
James Martin 40
Rebecca Martin 45
William Martin 15
Henry Martin 14
James Martin 12
George Martin 10
Joseph Martin 6
Elizabeth Martin 5
Charles Martin 3

What proof do you have for the parents of your James?

Remember, too, that many online trees are copied from each other so the other 3 trees could have been copied meaning that just one person has it wrong, either you or the person that said that the parents are John & Sarah.

For Ref.

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about James Martin
Name: James Martin
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 10 Jun 1821
Marriage Place: Arnold,Nottingham,England
Spouse: Rebeca Brogal
FHL Film Number: 504079

County Nottinghamshire
Place Arnold
Church St Mary
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 10 Jun 1821
GroomForename James
GroomSurname MARTIN
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Rebecca
BrideSurname BROGDALL

Baptism
County Nottinghamshire
Place Nottingham
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 12 May 1800
Forename James
Sex M
FatherForename James
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname MARTIN
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation Hosier


Place Nottingham
Church St Mary
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 09 Jan 1798
GroomForename James
GroomSurname MARTIN
BrideForename Mary
BrideSurname HENSHAW

(above, from below link)


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

Baptism
County Nottinghamshire
Place Nottingham
Church St Mary
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 05 Dec 1825
Forename James
Sex M
FatherForename James
MotherForename Rebecca
FatherSurname MARTIN
MotherSurname
Abode Long Row
FatherOccupation Labourer

(not sure if another James/Rebecca?)

Which of their children is your PROVEN line?

What documentary backup do you have for the statement you make about the parents of 'your' James?

James Martin isn't exactly an unusual name.......................

Don't place too much credence in other trees.............do your OWN research

When did James die?

How old was he?

Think this could be James in 1851, with sons Henry & Joseph - if 1841 is the correct family.

James Martin
Age:55
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Relation:Father
Gender:Male
Where born:Bilborough, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish:Basford
County/Island:Nottinghamshire
Country:England
Street address:
Occupation: <<parish relief
Condition as to marriage:<<Widower
Disability:
View image
Registration district:Basford
Sub-registration district:Basford
ED, institution, or vessel:3b
Neighbors:
View others on page
Household schedule number:131
Piece:2127
Folio:156
Page Number:35
Household Members:
Name
Age

Henry Martin 24
Mary Martin 22
Alfred Martin 3
James Martin 1
James Martin 55
Joseph Martin 18 << brother

Burial (Find My Past)
First Name REBECCA
Last Name MARTIN
Year Of Birth 1795
Year Of Death 1849
Burial Day 11
Burial Month 2
Burial Year 1849
Age 54
Place BASFORD
County Nottinghamshire
Church Denomination ANGLICAN
Church Description ST LEODEGARIUS
Country England
Record set National Burial Index for England & Wales


Burial (if him)
First Name JAMES
Last Name MARTIN
Year Of Birth 1799
Year Of Death 1854
Burial Day 20
Burial Month 3
Burial Year 1854
Age 55
Place BASFORD
County Nottinghamshire
Church Denomination ANGLICAN
Church Description ST LEODEGARIUS

Chris :)

1. James and his 7children were all born in Nottingham according to 1841 Census.

2. Derbyshire libraries microfiche confirm almost all of my family tree during the 18th century which again is backed up by the 1841 census.

3. James was baptised 12 May 1800 according to microfiche,
and
4. James 1773 parents were James (1742-1808) & Ann Wood (1747-1813) according to microfiche and baptism docs.

5. James died AMJ 1885 in Bakewell.

I have now passed my research results to all three of the "similar" trees and one has already said he believes my suggestion that his James b c1796 never married Rebecca Brogall because he was listed as having a wife of a different name in one of the census.

My thanks to Margee, Susan, Chris Ho, Reggie and Flip. I just hope I've answered any/all of your questions and that they confirm the facts you have raised.
If there are any doubts I originally had, most of them have now dissappeared.

This msg is for Flip.
This James born 1799 is the on the other 3 trees, not mine.
Thanks again.

Ron