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Thankyou so much the Arthur you have is for a Patrick walter Redsell not Patrick Albert Redsell.although his father was also Arthur.I am con fused.

this looks like his dads death

Name: Arthur A Redsell
Birth Date: abt 1873
Date of Registration: Jun 1931
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Dartford
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 794

so the 1911 census info that was posted is the right family

What more are you looking for ??

I have a marriage Certificate for Eva and Patrick Albert Redsell. Patricks father was Arthur Redsell and they lived at 10 Walnut tree avenue Wilmington Dartford kent. a cartage contractor.

Thank you very much for your kind help. much appreciated I did not expect so much more information. Thats my nan and granddad.

Baptism
County Kent
Place Dartford
Church Holy Trinity Pr
RegisterNumber 1980
DateOfBirth 23 Mar 1908
BaptismDate 08 Apr 1908
Forename Eva
FatherForename Thomas
MotherForename Agnes
FatherSurname WOLSEY
MotherSurname
Abode Lowfield St.
FatherOccupation Store dealer


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

Baptism
County Kent
Place Dartford
Church Holy Trinity Pr
RegisterNumber 3086
DateOfBirth 26 May 1902
BaptismDate 17 Sep 1902
Forename Thomas George
FatherForename Thomas
MotherForename Agnes
FatherSurname WOLSEY
MotherSurname
Abode Lowfield St.
FatherOccupation Lodging House Keeper

Baptism
County Kent
Place Dartford
Church Holy Trinity Pr
RegisterNumber 1981
DateOfBirth 30 Nov 1903
BaptismDate 08 Apr 1908
Forename George Herbert
FatherForename Thomas
MotherForename Agnes
FatherSurname WOLSEY
MotherSurname
Abode Lowfield St.
FatherOccupation Store dealer


County Kent
Place Dartford
Church Holy Trinity Pr
RegisterNumber 434
MarriageDate 20 Jun 1925
GroomForename George Herbert
GroomSurname WOOLSEY
GroomAge 21
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Motor Engineer
GroomAbode Heath St.
BrideForename Lilian Rosylin Mercia
BrideSurname MILLS
BrideAge 21
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Highfield Cottages, Swanley
GroomFatherForename Thomas
GroomFatherSurname WOOLSEY
GroomFatherOccupation Store Dealer
BrideFatherForename Henry
BrideFatherSurname MILLS
BrideFatherOccupation Farm Labourer
WitnessOneForename Reginald Vincent
WitnessOneSurname SWAIN
WitnessTwoForename Ruby Doris
WitnessTwoSurname MILLS
Notes Licence.

here's the Patrick Walter Redsell b. 1903 that Mary found, on the 1911 ............. shown only as Patrick


1911 Census

Name: Patrick Redsell
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Dartford, Kent
Civil Parish: Wilmington
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 3 Courtney Avenue, Wilmington, Dartford
Registration district: Dartford
Registration District Number: 43
Sub-registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Household schedule number: 148
Piece: 3789

Arthur Redsell 38 b.ca 1873, Dartford, Kent, Widowed, Carman
Mary Broad 46 b.ca 1865, Dartford, Single, Housekeeper,
Phyllis Redsell 14
Thomas Redsell 13
Isaac Redsell 10
Patrick Redsell 9
Phoebe Redsell 6


All children born Dartford




I note that another Ancestry tree has this Patrick married to Eva Woolsey



IF the above is the family of the Patrick we are looking for ......................... then several of the children do not appear to have been registered.

I've tried searching under Redsell, Broad and Lawler.

I've also taken advantage of freebmd wild card ability, and looked for christian name alone and with r* / b*


The only registrations that I think I have found are for Thomas b. 1898, Isaac, b. ca 1900, and Phoebe, 1905


Plus. the registration for Albert that Sirius found

tree on Ancestry has a Patrick Walter Redsell 1903-1983 son of Arthur Alfred Redsell 1873-1931 and Mary Ann Broad nee Lawler 1862-1927..

I can't find the birth for him either!!

Maryb.

Thank you so much everyone for your hard work .Will get certificate and let u know then.

Wonder what happened to Patrick then as not seeing a death for him before Eva remarried

Not seeing a new marriage for him either.

But as you want info of him the best way is to get their marriage cert to see who he gives as his dad , then you can go back further on his parents etc

I asked mum yes she did remarry. Thank you so much for your kind help. Much appreciated . :-)

Looks like she did

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First name(s) EVA
Last name CASEY
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1909
Age 51
Death quarter 3
Death year 1960
District DARTFORD
District number -
County Kent
Country England
Volume 5B
Page 423

?
So was she divorced or a widow when she remarried

So was she still married to Patrick when she died ?if so her death cert should state if she was wife or widow of Patrick

Or did she remarry ?

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First name EVA
Last name REDSELL
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1932
Potential spouse's name(s) BERNARD D CASEY
Spouse's last name CASEY
District DARTFORD
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 2240

not eva she is buried in Wilmington Dartford kent.
thank you though

Wonder is someone had her dob wrong

Name: Eva Redsell
Birth Date: 8 Apr 1912
Date of Registration: Dec 1998
Age at Death: 86
Registration district: Sedgemoor
Inferred County: Somerset
Register Number: 63
District and Subdistrict: 7231
Entry Number: 132

Ok Thank you very much for your help.

Births Jun 1908
Woolsey Eva Dartford 2a 680a

Just a guess as I cannot see a birth for Patrick , this 'could' be him if he was registered by his middle name
Dec 1902

REDSELL Albert Dartford 2a 566

there doesn't appear to be a matching Albert in 1911?

wow I hope it is him .Thank you so much :-)

Marriages Mar 1927
Redsell Patrick A Woolsey Dartford 2a 972
WOOLSEY Eva REDSELL Dartford 2a 972


They had one child born Dartford reg ,her birth is on FreeBMD

Have you followed up on her ?

Edit looks like Joan married in 1958 and died in 1968

First name(s) JOAN A
Last name SPILLETT
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1926
Age 42
Death quarter 2
Death year 1968
District DARTFORD
District number -
County Kent
Country England
Volume 5F
Page 270



So no help there