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~Lynda~
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26 May 2014 20:20 |
Looking for Alice Ada Hatswell & her family
Alice was born c.1884 in Islington to Thomas & Emily Hatswell. I can find Alice, when married, in the 1911 census, but cannot find the family before that, I've tried different variations of the name, but drawing blanks. I have found a Thomas & Emily in the 1911, which could be them, but not 100% so need to find Alice living at home in previous census' to find out more about her and her family.
Can you find them? Any help gratefully received
Thank you :-D
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fuzzyducky82
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26 May 2014 20:25 |
: Alice Ada Hatswell Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 20 Oct 1895 Father's Name: Thomas Hatswell Mother's name: Emily Hatswell Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Registers
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~Lynda~
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26 May 2014 20:27 |
I have that info already thank you Donna, but thank you for looking :-D
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fuzzyducky82
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26 May 2014 20:27 |
She was baptised alongside her siblings Edward William Hatswell, Rose Eleanor Hatswell and Thomas Mills Hatswell the family were living at 49 Danbury Street and her father was a carman
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26 May 2014 20:32 |
Parents 1911???
Name: Thomas Hatswell Age in 1911: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: London, United Kingdom Civil Parish: St Pancras County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 6 Doughty Mews W C Marital Status: Married Years Married: 27 Estimated Marriage Year: 1884 Occupation: CARMAN Registration district: St Pancras Registration District Number: 9 Sub-registration district: South St Pancras ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Piece: 704 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Hatswell 55 Emily Hatswell 51 Rose Hatswell 24 Thomas Hatswell 21 Maud Hatswell 20 William Hatswell 15 Albert Hatswell 13 Jessie Hatswell 11 John Richards 28 Alice Richards 31 John Richards 5 Cecil Richards 4 Ester Richards 0
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26 May 2014 20:32 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Alice Ada Hatswell Name: Alice Ada Hatswell Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Age: 21 Spouse Name: Walter William Reading Spouse Age: 22 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 17 Jun 1906 Parish: Islington St Peter Borough: Islington Father Name: Thomas Hatswell Spouse Father: John Reading Register Type: Parish Register
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MarieCeleste
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26 May 2014 20:37 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
THOS HATSWELL HEAD MARRIED Male 34 1857 CARMAN ST LUKE, LONDON EMILY HATSWELL WIFE MARRIED Female 30 1861 - READING, BERKSHIRE ADA HATSWELL DAUGHTER - Female 6 1885 - ST LUKE, LONDON ROSE HATSWELL DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 4 1887 - ST LUKE, LONDON THOS HATSWELL SON SINGLE Male 2 1889 - ST LUKE, LONDON FLORENCE HATSWELL DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 1 1890 - ST LUKE, LONDON
Street REMINGTON STREET Parish ST LUKE Town LONDON County London Country ENGLAND City FINSBURY
Parliamentary borough FINSBURY EAST Ecclesiastical disctrict ST MATTHEW Registration district HOLBORN
Enumeration district 9 Series RG12 Piece number 230 Folio number 211 Page 6
ADDED: Thomas' occupation on the baptism and marriage posted above is carman so seems to fit.
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AnnCardiff
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26 May 2014 20:40 |
Name: Alice Ada Hatswell Event Type: Marriage Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration Year: 1906 Registration District: Islington County: London Event Place: Islington, London, England Spouse Name (available after 1911): Volume: 1B Page: 575 Line Number: 350
Alice Ada Hatswell probably married one of the following people
Name: Walter William Reading
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MarieCeleste
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26 May 2014 20:42 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census THOMAS HATSWELL HEAD MARRIED Male 46 1855 CARRIERS CARMAN ST LUKES, LONDON EMILY HATSWELL WIFE MARRIED Female 41 1860 -UPHAM, HAMPSHIRE ADA HATSWELL DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 17 1884 CARD BOARD BOX MAKER ST LUKES, LONDON ROSE HATSWELL DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 15 1886 PURSE MAKER ST LUKES, LONDON THOMAS HATSWELL SON - Male 13 1888 - ST LUKES, LONDON MAUD HATSWELL DAUGHTER - Female 12 1889 - ST LUKES, LONDON WILLIAM HATSWELL SON - Male 6 1895 - ISLINGTON, LONDON ALBERT HATSWELL SON - Male 4 1897 - ISLINGTON, LONDON JESSIE M L HATSWELL DAUGHTER - Female 1 1900 - ST LUKES, LONDON WILLIAM MATHEWS VISITOR MARRIED Male 42 1859 PUBLISHERS PORTER (BOOKS) SCOTLAND EDINBURG ARTHUR JEFFERIES BOARDER SINGLE Male 22 1879 TUNNELLER (MINER) SUSSEX WILLIAM ANSELL BOARDER SINGLE Male 26 1875 GAS FITTER BLACKFRIARS,
House number 61 Street MACCLESFIELD STREET Parish ST LUKE County London Country ENGLAND
Municipal ward 3 Parliamentary borough EAST FINSBURY Registration district HOLBORN
Series RG13 Piece number 258 Folio number 9 Page 9
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26 May 2014 20:43 |
1911 England Census about Ada Reading Name: Ada Reading Age in 1911: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: St Luke, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Pancras County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 9 Colonade Mews, St Pancras W C Marital Status: Married Registration district: St Pancras Registration District Number: 9 Sub-registration district: South St Pancras Walter Reading 27 Ada Reading 26 Ada Reading 4 Walter Reading 3
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AnnCardiff
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26 May 2014 20:44 |
Name: Rose Eleanor Hatswell Event Type: Birth Registration Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration Year: 1887 Registration District: Holborn County: London Event Place: Holborn, London, England Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Volume: 1B Page: 769 Line Number: 349
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AnnCardiff
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26 May 2014 20:45 |
Name: Rose E Hatswell Event Type: Marriage Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Year: 1911 Registration District: Hackney County: London Event Place: Hackney, London, England Spouse Name (available after 1911): Volume: 1B Page: 1132 Line Number: 71
Rose E Hatswell probably married one of the following people Name: Abraham G Da Costa Name: James H Hobbs
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MarieCeleste
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26 May 2014 20:48 |
Lynda, if you were looking on Ancestry they are recorded as Hatervell on the 1891.
ADDED: and they're Hakwell on the 1901
The 1891 & 1901 I posted were from FindMyPast.
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AnnCardiff
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26 May 2014 20:49 |
Name: Frank Payne Event Type: Marriage Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration Year: 1918 Registration District: Islington County: London Event Place: Islington, London, England Spouse Name (available after 1911): Hatswell Volume: 1B Page: 574 Line Number: 89
l probably married one of the following people Name: Florence M Hatswell
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AnnCardiff
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26 May 2014 20:50 |
Name: Thomas Hatswell Event Type: Census Event Date: 1911 Gender: Male Age: 55 Birthplace: Islington London, London Schedule Type: Household Registration District: St Pancras Sub-District: South St Pancras Parish: St Pancras County: London
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AnnCardiff
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26 May 2014 20:52 |
Name: Thomas Mills Hatswell Event Type: Marriage Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Year: 1864 Registration District: Clerkenwell County: London Event Place: Clerkenwell, London, England Spouse Name (available after 1911): Volume: 1B Page: 975 Line Number: 7
Thomas Mills Hatswell probably married one of the following people Name: Mary Nelson
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AnnCardiff
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26 May 2014 20:53 |
Name: Edward William Hatswell Event Type: Birth Registration Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year: 1895 Registration District: Islington County: London Event Place: Islington, London, England Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Volume: 1B Page: 357 Line Number: 151
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~Lynda~
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26 May 2014 21:14 |
Donna, That is the the family I found, who I think is Alice's parents.
Jax, this was Alice's first husband,he died in the Great War, took me ages to find her second husband, as she married again using the surname of her first husband.
Marie, that looks like them, on the 1901& 1911 thank you :-D I cannot find these on on Ancestry, where I was looking, should of looked on here :)
Ann & Jax, Alice did marry Walter Reading, he died in the first world war. I was looking for ages for her second husband, but as I said before she married him using the surname Reading, but when she had her children with second husband, she used her maiden name, it was process of elimination how I found out, who she married 2nd time around :-D
Thanks everyone for your help, I am doing this tree for my friend, she will be thrilled with this info, much appreciated :-D
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MarieCeleste
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26 May 2014 21:19 |
Lynda, Ada Alice did everything absolutely correctly! It's usual for a remarriage to be in the current married name (except sometimes when divorced) and it is always (or should be) the mother's maiden name on birth registrations. An actual birth certificate may show her previous married name.
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~Lynda~
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26 May 2014 21:26 |
Marie, Thanks for the info about the Ancestry mis spellings, I will correct them:-D
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