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Where on earth was Alice?

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~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 26 May 2014 20:20

Looking for Alice Ada Hatswell & her family


Alice was born c.1884 in Islington to Thomas & Emily Hatswell. I can find Alice, when married, in the 1911 census, but cannot find the family before that, I've tried different variations of the name, but drawing blanks. I have found a Thomas & Emily in the 1911, which could be them, but not 100% so need to find Alice living at home in previous census' to find out more about her and her family.

Can you find them? Any help gratefully received

Thank you :-D

fuzzyducky82

fuzzyducky82 Report 26 May 2014 20:25

: Alice Ada Hatswell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 20 Oct 1895
Father's Name: Thomas Hatswell
Mother's name: Emily Hatswell
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 26 May 2014 20:27

I have that info already thank you Donna, but thank you for looking :-D

fuzzyducky82

fuzzyducky82 Report 26 May 2014 20:27

She was baptised alongside her siblings Edward William Hatswell, Rose Eleanor Hatswell and Thomas Mills Hatswell the family were living at 49 Danbury Street and her father was a carman

fuzzyducky82

fuzzyducky82 Report 26 May 2014 20:32

Parents 1911???

Name: Thomas Hatswell
Age in 1911: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 6 Doughty Mews W C
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 27
Estimated Marriage Year: 1884
Occupation: CARMAN
Registration district: St Pancras
Registration District Number: 9
Sub-registration district: South St Pancras
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Piece: 704
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hatswell 55
Emily Hatswell 51
Rose Hatswell 24
Thomas Hatswell 21
Maud Hatswell 20
William Hatswell 15
Albert Hatswell 13
Jessie Hatswell 11
John Richards 28
Alice Richards 31
John Richards 5
Cecil Richards 4
Ester Richards 0

jax

jax Report 26 May 2014 20:32


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Alice Ada Hatswell
Name:
Alice Ada Hatswell
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1885
Age:
21
Spouse Name:
Walter William Reading
Spouse Age:
22
Record Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
17 Jun 1906
Parish:
Islington St Peter
Borough:
Islington
Father Name:
Thomas Hatswell
Spouse Father:
John Reading
Register Type:
Parish Register

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 May 2014 20:37

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

THOS HATSWELL HEAD MARRIED Male 34 1857 CARMAN ST LUKE, LONDON
EMILY HATSWELL WIFE MARRIED Female 30 1861 - READING, BERKSHIRE
ADA HATSWELL DAUGHTER - Female 6 1885 - ST LUKE, LONDON
ROSE HATSWELL DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 4 1887 - ST LUKE, LONDON
THOS HATSWELL SON SINGLE Male 2 1889 - ST LUKE, LONDON
FLORENCE HATSWELL DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 1 1890 - ST LUKE, LONDON

Street REMINGTON STREET
Parish ST LUKE
Town LONDON
County London
Country ENGLAND
City FINSBURY

Parliamentary borough FINSBURY EAST
Ecclesiastical disctrict ST MATTHEW
Registration district HOLBORN

Enumeration district 9
Series RG12
Piece number 230
Folio number 211
Page 6

ADDED:
Thomas' occupation on the baptism and marriage posted above is carman so seems to fit.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 May 2014 20:40

Name: Alice Ada Hatswell
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1906
Registration District: Islington
County: London
Event Place: Islington, London, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911):
Volume: 1B
Page: 575
Line Number: 350


Alice Ada Hatswell probably married one of the following people

Name: Walter William Reading

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 May 2014 20:42

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
THOMAS HATSWELL HEAD MARRIED Male 46 1855 CARRIERS CARMAN ST LUKES, LONDON
EMILY HATSWELL WIFE MARRIED Female 41 1860 -UPHAM, HAMPSHIRE
ADA HATSWELL DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 17 1884 CARD BOARD BOX
MAKER ST LUKES, LONDON
ROSE HATSWELL DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 15 1886 PURSE MAKER ST LUKES, LONDON
THOMAS HATSWELL SON - Male 13 1888 - ST LUKES, LONDON
MAUD HATSWELL DAUGHTER - Female 12 1889 - ST LUKES, LONDON
WILLIAM HATSWELL SON - Male 6 1895 - ISLINGTON, LONDON
ALBERT HATSWELL SON - Male 4 1897 - ISLINGTON, LONDON
JESSIE M L HATSWELL DAUGHTER - Female 1 1900 - ST LUKES, LONDON
WILLIAM MATHEWS VISITOR MARRIED Male 42 1859 PUBLISHERS PORTER
(BOOKS) SCOTLAND EDINBURG
ARTHUR JEFFERIES BOARDER SINGLE Male 22 1879 TUNNELLER (MINER) SUSSEX
WILLIAM ANSELL BOARDER SINGLE Male 26 1875 GAS FITTER
BLACKFRIARS,

House number 61
Street MACCLESFIELD STREET
Parish ST LUKE
County London
Country ENGLAND

Municipal ward 3
Parliamentary borough EAST FINSBURY
Registration district HOLBORN

Series RG13
Piece number 258
Folio number 9
Page 9

jax

jax Report 26 May 2014 20:43


1911 England Census
about Ada Reading
Name:
Ada Reading
Age in 1911:
26
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1885
Relation to Head:
Wife
Gender:
Female
Birth Place:
St Luke, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish:
St Pancras
County/Island:
London
Country:
England
Street address:
9 Colonade Mews, St Pancras W C
Marital Status:
Married
Registration district:
St Pancras
Registration District Number:
9
Sub-registration district:
South St Pancras
Walter Reading 27
Ada Reading 26
Ada Reading 4
Walter Reading 3


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 May 2014 20:44

Name: Rose Eleanor Hatswell
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1887
Registration District: Holborn
County: London
Event Place: Holborn, London, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3):
Volume: 1B
Page: 769
Line Number: 349

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 May 2014 20:45

Name: Rose E Hatswell
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1911
Registration District: Hackney
County: London
Event Place: Hackney, London, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911):
Volume: 1B
Page: 1132
Line Number: 71

Rose E Hatswell probably married one of the following people
Name: Abraham G Da Costa
Name: James H Hobbs

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 May 2014 20:48

Lynda, if you were looking on Ancestry they are recorded as Hatervell on the 1891.


ADDED: and they're Hakwell on the 1901

The 1891 & 1901 I posted were from FindMyPast.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 May 2014 20:49

Name: Frank Payne
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1918
Registration District: Islington
County: London
Event Place: Islington, London, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911): Hatswell
Volume: 1B
Page: 574
Line Number: 89

l probably married one of the following people
Name: Florence M Hatswell

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 May 2014 20:50

Name: Thomas Hatswell
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Male
Age: 55
Birthplace: Islington London, London
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: St Pancras
Sub-District: South St Pancras
Parish: St Pancras
County: London

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 May 2014 20:52

Name: Thomas Mills Hatswell
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1864
Registration District: Clerkenwell
County: London
Event Place: Clerkenwell, London, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911):
Volume: 1B
Page: 975
Line Number: 7

Thomas Mills Hatswell probably married one of the following people
Name: Mary Nelson

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 May 2014 20:53

Name: Edward William Hatswell
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1895
Registration District: Islington
County: London
Event Place: Islington, London, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3):
Volume: 1B
Page: 357
Line Number: 151

~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 26 May 2014 21:14

Donna, That is the the family I found, who I think is Alice's parents.

Jax, this was Alice's first husband,he died in the Great War, took me ages to find her second husband, as she married again using the surname of her first husband.

Marie, that looks like them, on the 1901& 1911 thank you :-D I cannot find these on on Ancestry, where I was looking, should of looked on here :)

Ann & Jax, Alice did marry Walter Reading, he died in the first world war. I was looking for ages for her second husband, but as I said before she married him using the surname Reading, but when she had her children with second husband, she used her maiden name, it was process of elimination how I found out, who she married 2nd time around :-D

Thanks everyone for your help, I am doing this tree for my friend, she will be thrilled with this info, much appreciated :-D

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 May 2014 21:19

Lynda, Ada Alice did everything absolutely correctly! It's usual for a remarriage to be in the current married name (except sometimes when divorced) and it is always (or should be) the mother's maiden name on birth registrations. An actual birth certificate may show her previous married name.

~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 26 May 2014 21:26

Marie, Thanks for the info about the Ancestry mis spellings, I will correct them:-D