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Trying to find Isabella Sullivan's death

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Catherine

Catherine Report 23 May 2014 19:51

Please cou;d anyone find Isabella Sullivan's death , she was born c 1856 Inverness .

Ist husband Doanld MacDonald
2nd husband John Sullivan , he died in 1892 .

Maiden name Cameron . Parents Thomas Cameron and Isabella Fraser .

She had a son after death of John , William Malcolm Sullivan b1895 d 1965

Any information much appreciated .

Regards
Catherine

patchem

patchem Report 23 May 2014 20:05

Where have you looked for her death, and have you also looked for a remarriage?

Have you found her in the censuses of 1901 and 1911?

Thanks

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2014 21:34

Hello Catherine, have you looked on Scotland's People?

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 May 2014 21:39

Hi , thanks for replies . Have looked at census and on Scotland's People and to no avail .Tried all her names too .

Tried all places on SP for deaths .

Looked for remarriage too and got nothing.
Looked on every possible census on ancestry site too .

Willam last child doesn't appear on any 1901 or 1911 census either .
:-(

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 May 2014 22:33

When and where did Isabella marry, and did she have any other children apart from William?
Was William also born in Inverness?

If you haven't found her on any census records, then what proof do you have of the info you have given?

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 May 2014 22:51

Isabella's 1st marriage was 20/06/1878 to Donald MacDonald in Inverness
2nd marriage was 18/10/1889 to John Sullivan in Inverness .

She had previous children to Donald .... Andrew MacDonald b Inveness c 1879
John Wilson MacDonald bc 1880 Inverness , Janet Fraser MacDonald bc 1883 and Annie MacDonald bc 1885 Inverness .

They all appear on the 1891 census and none appear on any 1901 census apart from Andrew and his family on the England 1911 census in Durham .

Willam Malcolm Sullivan/Cameron b 1895 Inverness and died in 1965 in Edinburgh , Searched for marriage on SP but none . Have sent for his death cert to see who was the informant .
Thanks

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 May 2014 20:15

Hope you don't mind me posting the 1891 census.

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Print household transcription
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
JOHN SULLIVAN HEAD MARRIED Male 65 1826 PORTER RAILWAY IRELAND
Transcription
ISABELLA SULLIVAN WIFE MARRIED Female 35 1856 - KILTARLITY, INVERNESSSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Transcription
ANDREW MACDONALD STEP SON - Male 12 1879 SCHOLAR INVERNESSSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Transcription
JOHN MACDONALD STEP SON - Male 10 1881 SCHOLAR INVERNESSSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Transcription
JESSIE MACDONALD STEP DAUGHTER - Female 8 1883 SCHOLAR INVERNESSSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Transcription
ANNIE MACDONALD STEP DAUGHTER - Female 6 1885 SCHOLAR INVERNESSSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Transcription
FREDERICK KNIGHT SON-IN-LAW MARRIED Male 40 1851 CLERK ENGLAND
Transcription
MARGARET KNIGHT DAUGHTER MARRIED Female 21 1870 - INVERNESSSHIRE, SCOTLAND


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Print household transcription
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
DONALD MACDONALD HEAD MARRIED Male 28 1853 COML TRAVELLER GROCERS URQUHART G, ROSSSHIRE
Transcription
ISABELLA MACDONALD WIFE MARRIED Female 26 1855 WIFE KILTARLITY G, INVERNESSSHIRE
Transcription
ANDREW MACDONALD SON - Male 2 1879 - INVERNESS, INVERNESSSHIRE
Transcription
JOHN W MACDONALD SON - Male 0 1881 - INVERNESS, INVERNESSSHIRE

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 May 2014 20:23

Possibly Annie in 1901? (Long shot!)


1901 Scotland Census about Annie Macdonald
Name: Annie Macdonald
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Inverness, invernessshire
Registration Number: 98
Registration district: Inverness
Civil Parish: Inverness
Town: Inverness
County: Inverness
Address: Muirfield Rd Heathcote
Occupation: Nurse (domestic)
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 308
LINE: 20
Roll: CSSCT1901_28
Household Members:
Name Age
John Henry Crick 47
Elizabeth Augusta Beatrice Crick 42
Wilfred John Crick 11
George Hilary Crick 7
Marjory Fraser 18
Annie Macdonald 16


And maybe Janet/Jessie??


1901 Scotland Census about Jessie Macdonald
Name: Jessie Macdonald
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relationship: Serv (Servant)
Gender: Female
Where born: Inverness, invernessshire
Registration Number: 98
Registration district: Inverness
Civil Parish: Inverness
Town: Inverness
County: Inverness
Address: Abodarff Rd Ferryhill
Occupation: General Serv (domestic)
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 57
LINE: 13
Roll: CSSCT1901_28
Household Members:
Name Age
Isabella Morgan 38
Helen Hopkins Morgan 13
Gertrude Anne Halkett Morgan 10
Agnes Hamilton Reid Morgan 7
Francis Ethel Morgan 5
Victoria Alice Morgan 3
Eveline Mary Blair Morgan 2
Thomas Masson 21
Jessie Macdonald 17

alviegal

alviegal Report 25 May 2014 20:32

Was hoping Isabella was with one of the children.
Margaret was John Sullivan's daughter so she wasn't with her.


1901 Scotland Census about Frederick Knight
Name: Frederick Knight
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret Knight
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Registration Number: 685/4
Registration district: St Giles
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Buccleuch
County: Midlothian
Address: 16 George Square
Occupation: Caretaker Of House
ED: 56
Household schedule number: 15
LINE: 13
Roll: CSSCT1901_384
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Knight 50
Margaret Knight 30
Kate Brown 23
Mary Pottinger 43

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 May 2014 20:42

Janet/Jessie in 1911. Image says Fraser, not Treaser.


1911 England Census about Jessie Treaser McDonald
Name: Jessie Treaser McDonald
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Inverness, Scotland
Civil Parish: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: Dunwear Headingley Leeds
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Leeds
Registration District Number: 500
Sub-registration district: Kirkstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Piece: 27078
Household Members:
Name Age
David Dixon Marshall 45
Dorothy Dixon Marshall 20
Ann Gwendoline Booth 19
Jessie Treaser McDonald 27
Alice Woodcock 22
Sarah Alice Taylor 27

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 May 2014 00:02

Wow thanks everyone for all the information .

I have now found Isabella on the 1901 Scotland Census .
Transcribed as McDonald ....MacDonald , and so she was using 1st married name .

Also at the address at which she died 13 years later . Mystery why she went back to that surname .

William was recorded as Willie and was transcribed as McDonald and not Sullivan.



:-D <3

Flip

Flip Report 26 May 2014 07:24

It could be she was out when the enumerator called - if one of the older children gave the details they would have given their last name of MacDonald, and maybe forgot to mention their mother was Sullivan? Just a thought, what name was her death registered in?

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 May 2014 13:20

Hi , her name was registered as McDonald , wife of Donald McDonald ( MacDonald ) Grocer and at the address of the 1901 census .

Her son Andrew registered her death and that ties in with where his address was .

Stranger and stranger !! :-0 :-S :-D

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 May 2014 16:10

So this is the 1901 with Jessie and Ann both with her.

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Print household transcription
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
ISABELLA MCDONALD HEAD WIDOW Female 44 1857 NO OCCUPATION INVERNESS, INVERNESSSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Transcription
JOHN MCDONALD SON SINGLE Male 20 1881 TAILOR INVERNESS, INVERNESSSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Transcription
JESSIE MCDONALD DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 18 1883 LAUNDRESS INVERNESS, INVERNESSSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Transcription
ANNIE MCDONALD DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 15 1886 LAUNDRESS INVERNESS, INVERNESSSHIRE, SCOTLAND
Transcription
WILLIE MCDONALD SON - Male 6 1895 - -

First name(s) ISABELLA
Last name MCDONALD
Relationship to head HEAD
Marital condition WIDOW
Gender Female
Age 44
Birth year 1857
Occupation NO OCCUPATION
Birth town INVERNESS
Birth county INVERNESSSHIRE
Birth place SCOTLAND
House number 29
House name MAY COURT
Parish INVERNESS
Town INVERNESS

Flip

Flip Report 26 May 2014 18:55

Yes very strange they recorded her death under the name MacDonald, maybe she divorced Mr Sullivan - or the children didn't like him - but you say the youngest, William went by the Sullivan name even though the "father" died 3 years before his birth. Nowt so strange as our ancestors ;-)

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 May 2014 16:18

:-D :-D :-D :-D Thanks all