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Hi anyone been successful in finding the parents of Matthew Morgan Clarke born c1833 son of Thomas Clarke and Elizabeth nee Morgan supposedly of Staffordshire? Not on 1841 census like you would expect, I even bought the qhole boxed set of Staff. 1841 census and checked the lot.
Love to hear from you.

could he have been illegitimate ................ born Mat(t)hew Morgan?

When you say that you have not found them on 1841 census, have you looked for them individually, or just searched for the supposed complete family?

(There is always the possibility, whether he is illegitimate or not, that his parents have died before 1841)

Could you post on here a census that you have found him in?

Thank-you

He is in a tree on ancestry, having him die in Australia.

Do you know when he sailed there?

A tree on Ancestry shows the 1851 for a Matthew Clarke in Warwickshire but that relates to this birth.
It also says that he sailed to New Zealand in 1851 but this Matthew is still here in 1861.

Name: Matthew Clarke
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 06 Feb 1831
Christening Place: MONKS KIRBY,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Matthew Clarke
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04374-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 557302
Reference ID:

Hello Joan and welcome to the Community Boards.





I'll let Joan know that she has replies to her query. :-)

Could you tell us what other info you have on him and how you connect to him.

Maryb.

He is mentioned on this site but just as a husband to Emma Arnel.

http://www.oocities.org/mepnab/a/arnel.html#clarke


There is also this from http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CLARKE/2009-10/1255344068



Parents Elizabeth nee MORGAN, and Thomas Clarke, miner.

Matthew emigrated to New Zealand abt 1851 then to Victoria, Australia in abt 1856. Married Emma ARNEL and had 8 children. Matthew dieD in Flemington, Victoria 1899.

Looking for any info re. Elizabeth MORGAN ans Thomas CLARKE.


You probably have seen all this.


http://www.oocities.org/mepnab3/c/chi.html

Matthew (Mathew Morgan) Clarke wed 1860 to Emma Arnel



http://www.ancientfaces.com/person/mathew-morgan-clarke/136514469

Mathew Morgan Clarke's Family & Relationships Add / Edit People
wife Arnel Emma Clarke
child Gertrude Amy Clarke

Last Known Residence Hotham, Australia

http://home.vicnet.net.au/~aigswbl/Issue114May2001.pdf

Mathew Morgan CLARKE married Emma ARNEL, farmer
at
Wangoom

ah those Ancestry trees ...

the person in question in that one is

1841 in Monks Kirby Warwickshire

Elizabeth Clarke 40 grocer
Emma Clarke 20
William Clarke 20
John Clarke 15
Marthew Clarke 10
Eliza Clarke 9
Ellen Clarke 3

1851 same place

Elizabeth Clarke 55 farmer
William Clarke 28
John Clarke 24
Matthew Clarke 20 blacksmith
Ellen Clarke 12

Elizabeth must have been recently widowed in 1841 (daughter aged 3) but no Matthew Clarke death in Lutterworth reg dist registered 1837-1841

anyway yes 1861 in Leamington Priors

Name: Mathew Clarke
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: 1834
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Monks Kirby, Warwickshire, England
shoeing? smith

so yes, unless that Matthew was in two places at once, he is not the one in Australia

just adding the details to clarify what Astra said

could this be the Matthew Clarke that JC has found??


from familysearch


Name: Matthew Clarke
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 06 Feb 1831
Christening Place: MONKS KIRBY,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Matthew Clarke
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:C04374-1, System Origin:England-ODM, GS Film number:557302

yes, that is the baptism record Astra posted before :-D

Astra found it all, I just posted the details to make it plainer how that Matthew in the 1851 census was very plainly not the one who married in Australia in 1860 because, as she said, he was in England in 1861 (and his father was Matthew)