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Peter

Peter Report 20 May 2014 16:55

Hi there,

Just curious, trying to find a name for the RC Church in Coatbridge, Lanarkshire, Scotland in 1865 and the parish church for Barony, near Glasgow, Lanarkshire in1826.

I.e. St. Matthew's Church etc.

I've found a possibility for Coatbridge, but would like to confirm here but can't find anything for Barony.

Thanks in advance,

Peter

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 May 2014 17:11

http://churches-uk-ireland.org/county_index.html

www.findachurch.co.uk/

Peter

Peter Report 20 May 2014 17:33

Thanks Reggie - I'd like to double check with someone on here please.

So, can someone please post the names of the churches they find here?

Peter

Peter Report 20 May 2014 17:35

Also is that link a comprehensive list?

Peter

Peter Report 20 May 2014 17:40

Also, I think the website mentioned above is only for churches still in use/standing. I've no idea if the churches I am looking for are in this situation.

Any other help/links much appreciated.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 20 May 2014 18:01

As far as I know there were two Barony churches around the Cathedral Sqare area of Glasgow in the early 1900s. Locally they were referred to the wee barony and the big barony. The Barony Church at the top of High Street is now used by Strathclyde University for functions including graduation ceremonies. I have visited it as it was the parish of my husband's grand and great grandparents and know that it was built in the 1890s. I think the wee Barony that my late Mum and late mother-in-law referred to may be situated in Catherdral Square and may be the church used by the Glasgow Evangelical Church.

I would think that there would be more churches in the Barony area and perhaps if you had an address, even from the 1841 census it would be possible to narrow the options of churches available. For example, it may be that St. Andrews in the Square (near Saltmarket) would have come under the area of Barony.

By 1800 Barony had a population of over 18000 so would have several "parish" churches.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 20 May 2014 18:16

There was/is St Patrick's in Coatbridge

http://www.stpatrickscoatbridge.co.uk/

If you look on the history it was opened in November 1848

Peter

Peter Report 20 May 2014 20:13

Thank you Londonbelle - you found the same as me. Good to see we on the right track there.

And thank you rootgather ... to be honest, the IGI only mentioned 'Barony' so I will perhaps email the local records office for further advice. But thank you and lovely to hear more about your personal story!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 20 May 2014 22:29

Peter, have you found the couple who married in 1826 on the 1841 census. That may help to narrow the area where the marriage took place. Also look for the marriage on Scotlandspeople as that too may give some indication of the name of the church. Barony really covered quite a large area.

Peter

Peter Report 21 May 2014 17:44

One of the spouses had died in 1837 and the mother and children had moved to Carlisle by 1841.

I did find the record on Scotlandspeople but will double check!

Peter

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 22 May 2014 10:10

Were the children christened? Just wondering if the couple had the children christened in the same church as they married.

I wouldn't hold much hope that the church would still be standing. So many churches in Glasgow have been demolished. This has been partly due to a fall in the number of parishioners but also people being more able to travel. The biggest reason is probably the redevelopment of Glasgow particularly in the mid twentieth century. Within a mile radius of where I live three churches have been demolished and flats built on the land, one taken over by a lesser known religious sect, one used as a Masonic club but now disused and one sold the church building to be converted into flats and they use the old church hall for services and other church activities. All this has happened within the last thirty years.

Cornish Susie

Cornish Susie Report 23 May 2014 11:07

I have the copy of an extract from the Parochial Register for Barony, County of Lanarkshire which shows the marriage of a couple of my ancestors. It was in Feb. 1852, by the Rev.Allan Maclean, Minister of Calton/Colton/Balton/Bolton Church in Glasgow. It's not easy to read the handwriting but hope this helps!
Sue

Peter

Peter Report 23 May 2014 12:44

Hi rootgather - that is fascinating and thank you for that information. The children were baptised but it seems on looking again that the marriage happaned TWICE (once in Barony and once in Glasgow itself).

Also, thank you Cornish Susie! Very interesting to see your story also!

Peter

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 May 2014 15:43

Firstly, Cornish Susie. The church would be Calton. Calton is an area just east of High Street. I am not certain of it's boundaries but it is the area roughly bordered by Saltmarket on the west, Gallowgate on the North, Abercrombie Street on the east and London Road on the south. The famous Glasgow Barras and Barrowland Ballroom (haunt of the murderer nicknamed Bible John) are located in The Calton. For some reason Glaswegians always refer to Calton area as The Calton.

Peter, the marriage would only happen once but the Banns would be recorded in the parish of the bride and groom. Looks like your bride and groom came from different parishes - one from Barony and one from Glasgow City.

Hope this clarifies things a little for both of you.

It may also be with noting that while in England and Wales it has only recently (I think) be possible to marry in places other than a church or registry office in Scotland this has been possible for many years. I have examples from the 1800s where a couple have been married by the local minister at the bride's home. I also have some where the couple tied the knot in a local hotel with the minister conducting the service. So what I am saying is don't assume the couple married in the church that the minister who married them preached in.

Good luck with your research.

Cornish Susie

Cornish Susie Report 23 May 2014 17:43

Thankyou Rootgather - at least I now know where they actually married and that my first guess about the handwriting was the correct one!
Sue

Peter

Peter Report 24 May 2014 11:49

That is fascinating - I had no idea you could marry away from a church/register office in Scotland back then! x