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Christine and Alviegal

Thanks again Christine for finding the census record for Alice.

Thanks to Alviegal for the transcripts and for the extra links which made interesting reading.

Your help was very much appreciated.

Regards Mary

And here's your other 1911. Looks like it's her.


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
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First Name MARGARET
Last Name BOLAN
Relationship INMATE
Condition SINGLE
Gender Female
Age 36
Year Of Birth 1875
Occupation COTTON MILL
Address FORD NEAR LIVERPOOL
Parish FORD
County Lancashire
Country ENGLAND
Birth Place LANC WIGAN
Year Of Marriage -
Years Of Marriage -
Archive Reference RG14
Piece Number 22348
Census Reference RG14PN22348 RD455 SD2 ED17 SN9999
Registration District WEST DERBY
Registration District Number 455
Sub District LITHERLAND
Enumeration District 17
SubDistrict Number 2


Looking at the front pages of the enumeration book, she stayed in a large establishment called 'The Convent And Home of the Good Shepherd.'
There were 247 people living there altogether, 244 females and 3 males. The 3 males and 3 females lived at the Gardener's Cottage which had 9 rooms.
30 females lived in the Convent which had 57 rooms and the remaining 211 females lived in the Home which had 23 rooms.


This makes for interesting reading.

http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/38245/mb.ashx?pnt=1

and this for pictures of the place.

http://www.litherland-digital.co.uk/album_5/pages/convent_menu.htm

Well done Christine!

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
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Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Birth Place
MICHAEL TARSNANE HEAD WIDOWER Male 35 1876 GREEN MAKER MILTOWN IRELAND
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JOHN BOLAN TARSNANE SON - Male 11 1900 SCHOOL LANCS WIGAN
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MARGARET ALICE TARSNANE DAUGHTER - Female 9 1902 SCHOOL LANCS WIGAN
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ALICE TARLEY BOARDER SINGLE Female 24 1887 TAILORES SEWING MACHINIST WIGAN LANC

First Name MICHAEL
Last Name TARSNANE
Relationship HEAD
Condition WIDOWER
Gender Male
Age 35
Year Of Birth 1876
Occupation GREEN MAKER
Address 78 MIRY LANE WIGAN
Parish WIGAN
County Lancashire
Country ENGLAND
Birth Place MILTOWN IRELAND


Michael was a widower. He had been married 12 years, 5 children though 2 had died. This had then been scored out.
His occupation looks more like Greuse Maker but no idea what that is.

Sorry Christine can I have the full details of the other census you found. Thanks

Hi Christine,

Well done.
Thank you so much for that information it is much appreciated.
I said earlier that I wondered if she was with one of her 2 married siblings but did not have access to view just to check the index.
Between 1901 and 1911 it looks as if 5 of her siblings died.

Please is it possible for you to check the 1911 for one of her other siblings
Margaret Bolan born 1874 Wigan
I cann't find one in Wigan but found one in West Derby Liverpool in the index but in an institution, Wondered if this lady was born in Wigan and if it was a workhouse or hospital. this lady also died 1911.
Thank you if it's not too much to ask.
Regards Mary

Come back Mary!

I think she is with Michael Tarsnane (now widowed) and his son John Bolan Tarsnane & daughter Margaret Alice Tarsnane.

She is transcribed as TARLEY
and living at 78 Miry Lane, Wigan.

Yes that was my uncle. I have all the other information but have not been able to find her on the 1911 census before she married.
Thought a new pair of eyes might have found her.
Thanks to all for looking.

A tree on Ancestry has her married to William Henry Fowler (no date) and dying in 1953.

Name: Alice Farley
Spouse Surname: Fowler, Wiiliam H
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1919
Registration district: Wigan
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8c
Page Number: 214

Thank you Alviegal.
Might have thought dressmaker as their step dad was a tailor.

1891 on fmp. Have made corrections to John and Thomas' occupations. Ropemaker sounds a lot better than dressmaker!

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
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Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Birth Place
JOHN FARLEY HEAD MARRIED Male 39 1852 TAILOR IRELAND
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ALICE FARLEY WIFE MARRIED Female 46 1845 - LANCASHIRE
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MARY ELLEN BOLAN DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 19 1872 COTTON WEAVER LANCASHIRE
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ELIZABETH ANN BOLAN DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 18 1873 COTTON WEAVER LANCASHIRE
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MARGARET BOLAN DAUGHTER SINGLE Female 16 1875 COTTON WEAVER LANCASHIRE
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JOHN BOLAN SON - Male 14 1877 DRESSMAKER LANCASHIRE
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THOMAS BOLAN SON - Male 13 1878 DRESSMAKER LANCASHIRE
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JOHN FARLEY SON - Male 12 1879 - LANCASHIRE
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THOMAS FARLEY SON - Male 10 1881 - LANCASHIRE
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CHARLIE FARLEY SON - Male 5 1886 - LANCASHIRE
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ALICE FARLEY DAUGHTER - Female 3 1888 - LANCASHIRE

Street LYON STREET
Town -
Parish WIGAN
City WIGAN

Mike,
The birth is correct for Alice.
Alice Ballard married John Bolan Wigan 1871
Then she married John Farley 1883.

I am now wondering if Alice was with either of her married siblings on the 1911 census?

Just for background in case it helps


Lancashire Birth : 1887
FARLEY Alice - Wigan Wigan & Leigh -BALLARD


Lancashire Marriage : 1873
FARLEY James - BALLARD Elizabeth- Liverpool, St. Alban Liverpool

John and Elizabeth Ann Bolan are half siblings to Alice,
John born 1876 and Elizabeth Ann 1873.
Elizabeth Ann married Michael Tarsnane Wigan 1899.
Don't know who John married but he was a rope maker on the 1891 census.
Mary

Sorry mike

By 1911 i think Mary,Margaret,Thomas Bolan and john Farley have died. Charles is in the army and I think thomas Farley is in prescot ,lancs. John and Elizabeth Bolan have both married .
Mary

It helps to have a reference

1901 - Wigan

Mary E Boland 29
Margaret Boland 26 - sister
Thomas Boland 23 - brother
John Farley 22 - half brother
Thomas Farley 19 - half brother
Charles Farley 15 - half brother
Alice Farley 13 - half sister

Could anyone please find Alice Farley born 1887 in Wigan Lancashire.
She was still single in 1911. I have her on the 1891 with her parents and on the 1901 census with her siblings.
Regards Mary