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thank you....Rootgatherer :-) :-)

Not any help but here is James and his wife in 1851. I was hoping they would be living with some other Barbers.

1851

Name: James Barber
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Lodger
Spouse's Name: Betsy Barber
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 1cc
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Piece: 2228
Folio: 45
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Airey 47
Sarah Airey 40
Joseph Richard Airey 12
William Henry Airey 2
James Barber 20 Lodger, Mechanic
Betsy Barber 20

I'm not finding them in 1851 either. So looking at marriages.

Here,s James' marriage and he doesn't say his father is deceased.

Name: James Barber, Mechanic
Age: 20, bachelor
Birth Year: abt 1830
Marriage Date: 29 Apr 1850
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's Name: John Barber, Mechanic
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Claborough
Spouse's Age: 19
Spouse's Father's Name: Frederick Claborough
Archive Roll: 718


Address: Acton Street for James

oh errrmmm ...Oh Dear..Thank you Margee :-)

No relationships on the 41 census, cane.

I've searched high & low for them in 1851. No luck!

On the above 1841 census...Does it say what relation to the family, the last three children are

No problem, will have a look for the Barbers in 1851.

Sorry Rootgatherer, hence i am not tracking the Walker side of the family...

Please can you find this family on 1851+....On William's marriage in 1882...John Barber ( william's father ) is deceased, ..i have not yet been able to trace this info for him as of yet

Elizabeth doesn't name a father on her marriage certificate. This looks like the Joseph with her and Charles in 1871.

1861

Name: Elizabeth Walker
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Walker
Mother's name: Elizabeth Walker
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 259
Piece: 2946
Folio: 108
Page Number: 47
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Walker 60 Head, Porter in Warehouse
Elizabeth Walker 56 Wife, Cotton Winder
Mary A Walker 22, Daughter, Cotton Winder
Elizabeth Walker 20, Daughter, Warehouse Servant
Elizabeth Wilson 23, Lodger

All born Manchester

Thank you Roogatherer.....i have been going the long way abt it to try and find my gt gt gt grand father...William Barber..LOOKS LIKE THIS COULD BE HIM Yay!!!

1841

Name: Charles Barber
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: London Road
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 571
Book: 3
Folio: 6
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
John Barber 40, occ. Engineer
Ann Barber 44
John Barber 15
James Barber 10
William Barber 6
Thomas Barber 5
Charles Barber 1
Mary Ann Barber 20
Mary Barber 13
Elizabeth Barber 11

Son Charles living with siblings: All single except Beatrice.

1901 England Census
about Charles Barber Name: Charles Barber
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: South Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Ardwick St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3674
Folio: 29
Page Number: 5
Household schedule number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Stephen Cutting 34
Beatrice Cutting 32
Ada Cutting 10
Amy Barber 30
Ada Barber 26
Harry Barber 24
Charles Barber 21

Thank you for 1881 census....i will take a look at the tree... :-)
Also all other census help :-)

1891 England Census
about Charles Barber Name: Charles Barber
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Barber
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ardwick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3169
Folio: 80
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Barber 50
Elizabeth Barber 49
Amy Barber 20
Maud Barber 18
Ada Barber 16
Harry Barber 14
Charles Barber 11
William J Shelmerdine 25
Lizzie Ann Barber 25

William J. is a son-in-law. Lizzie Ann's last name is also Shelmerdine, evidently his wife, daughter of Charles & Elizabeth,

1881 England Census
about Charles Barber Name: Charles Barber
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Elizabeth Barber
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 47 Every (St)
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Iron Turner
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 51
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3986
Folio: 89
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Barber 40
Elizabeth Barber 39
Elizabeth A. Barber 15
Beatrice Barber 12
Amy Barber 10
Maud Barber 8
Ada Barber 6
Harry Barber 4
Charles Barber 1

A tree on Ancestry has 9 children for the couple.

Thank you Margee.....Do they appear on 1881 census....please

I think this is them:

1871 England Census
about Charles Barber Name: Charles Barber
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Barber
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 47
Piece: 4042
Folio: 45
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Barber 30
Elizabeth Barber 29
Sarah A Barber 5
Beatrice Barber 3
Ann Barber 8 Months
Joseph Walker 71

Joseph Walker is listed as lodger but possibly Liz's father?

Good Morning Everyone....
I have these marriage detail's,:Marriage: 19th september 1863,st peter. Manchester
Charles Barber age 24,Mechanic, Bachelor To Elizabeth Walker age 23, spinster.
Groom's Father: John Barber ,Mechanic...Please could i ask for help with census info for this couple ....