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Hi,

Researching for a friend of mine, her grandmother came from Scotland (Fife I think), her name was IVY W PICK and was probably born around 1910ish. She married Albert Pitman in 1930 at Poole, Dorset.

If anyone has access to the Scottish recordsI would be grateful for a birth record and any other information on her that may be thrown up.

Thanks, Dave :-)

No Ivy Pick in the Scottish births, but since she married in Poole



Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
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Pick Ivy W Cutler Poole 5a 451


Andy

Possible second marriage in 1965

ame First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1965 (>99%)
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ALLMAN TOM PITMAN Poole 7c 1797
PITMAN Ivy M Allman Poole 7c 1797

and death?


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Ivy Winifred Allman




Name:Ivy Winifred Allman
Birth Date:4 Nov 1912
Date of Registration:Feb 2007
Age at Death:95
Registration district:Poole
Inferred County:Dorset
Volume:-1
Page:-1
Register Number:C42E
District and Subdistrict:431/1C
Entry Number:232


Andy

Are you sure about the marriage date?


Ivy Winifred Pick
Gender:Female
Marital Status:Single
Birth Date:1913
Marriage Date:18 Feb 1933
Marriage Place:St. Aldhelms', Branksome, Dorset, England
Marriage Age:20
Father: James Henry Pick
Spouse: Albert Henry Pitman
FHL Film Number:
2427650

Name: Ivy W Pick
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1912
Registration District: Poole
County: Dorset
Event Place: Poole, Dorset, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Cutler
Volume: 5A
Page: 451
Line Number: 131

baptism

Name: Ivy Winifred Pick
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 15 Dec 1912
Event Place: St. Aldhelms', Branksome, Dorset, England
Birth Year (Estimated):
Father's Name: James Henry Pick
Mother's Name: Jessie Pick
Entry Number: 1829
Page:
GS Film number: 2427650
Digital Folder Number: 004508719
Image Number: 00128

sibling

Name: Violet Jessie Pick
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 02 Aug 1908
Event Place: St. Aldhelms', Branksome, Dorset, England
Father's Name: James Henry Pick
Mother's Name: Jessie Pick
Entry Number: 1539
Page:
GS Film number: 2427650
Digital Folder Number: 004508719
Image Number: 00105

Name: Albert Henry Pitman
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 Feb 1933
Event Place: St. Aldhelms', Branksome, Dorset, England
Residence Place:
Age: 23
Marital Status: Single
Birth Year (Estimated): 1910
Father's Name: Tom Ryan Pitman
Spouse's Name: Ivy Winifred Pick
Spouse's Residence Place:
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1913
Entry Number: 3528
Page:
GS Film number: 2427650
Digital Folder Number: 004508719
Image Number: 00366

???????????????

Name: Cecilia May Pick
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Female
Age: 17
Birthplace: Branksome Bournemouth
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Poole
Sub-District: Canford
Parish: Poole
County: Dorsetshire

Was your friends father called Eric, born in 1933?

Jamess Henry Pick
Age in 1911:34
Estimated birth year:abt 1877
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Female
Birth Place:London, England
Civil Parish:Poole
County/Island:Dorset
Country:England
Street address:Stapleton, Surrey Road
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Turner and Polisher
Registration district:Poole
Registration District Number:261
Sub-registration district:Canford
ED, institution, or vessel:12
Household schedule number:342
Piece:12275
Household Members:
NameAge
James Henry Pick 34
Jessie Pick 34

They state they have been married 7 years and had 1 child still living, but not with them on the census. So Violet Jessie found by Anne?

Hello respondents:- Andy, Flip & Ann

Thank you all so much for the work you have sent me. I will digest it all this evening and update my records.

Yes my friend's father's name was Eric C Pitman.

It must be my friend's mother who originated from Scotland and I have picked up wrongly.

She was Catherine Connelly when she married Eric Pitman but the records show two surnames. Flander and Connelly, I assume that she was married previously and her maiden name was Flander. If anyone can trace her then I would be most grateful.

Thanks once a gain, you're all stars !!

Best wishes; Dave

On the image of the GRO index entry for the Pitman/Connolly marriage (1957), her other surname is Fiander, (also listed as Flander).

This could be her first marriage:

1947 FIANDER WILLIAM
CONNELLY CATHERINE BUCKHAVEN /FIFE 459/02 0148

Well, in that case there were 2 children born in Doncaster following the marriage. Both have mmn as Connelly, so that was her birth name. Although she had been known as Fiander/Flander at some point - so maybe she lived with Mr Fiander/Flander or assumed a stepfather's name?

I'm not sure which name is right as it's been transcribed as both flander and fiander. But having looked at the index it's Fiander.

Added, guess Argylgran beat me to this - it looks likely for a previous marriage :-D

Possibly her birth, based on the marriage I posted above:

1928 CONNELLY CATHERINE F BUCKHAVEN /FIFE 459/02 0149

Further details aren't available online for such a recent birth or marriage, but your friend could buy the birth or marriage cert to find out Catherine's parents' names.

Dave

For future reference, please note that Scottish BMD records have to be paid for using credits, which cannot be re-used,

This also applies to the 1911 Scottish census

Scotlands people site does not offer subscriptions

Also....

Did you actually look up the Pick/Pitman marriage?

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Reggie

Thanks for that information.

Since my original post I have looked up the marriage Pick/Pitman as you mention and I note that I have entered the wrong year. 1930. It should read 1933 Poole.

Dave

As you also asked for information about Catherine, I take it you have noticed my posts giving her probable birth and first marriage, Dave?

ArgyllGran

Yes I have noticed and I am going to see if a friend of mine who lives in Fife can trace her at the local library. I am assuming that the Scottish records are available through the library as is the case in England. ----- BUT

They may not be though after reading the post from Reggie above.

Dave

The Scotland's People Centre in Edinburgh is the place to go to view Scottish BMD records.

If you (or your friend) quote(s) the GROS ref numbers I gave, they'll be easy to find.

http://www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/