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Janette
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4 May 2014 22:20 |
thankyou every one for your help
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PricklyHolly
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2 May 2014 07:44 |
Eliza appears as Emma in 1911....
1911 England Census about Wm B Bagshaw Name:Wm B Bagshaw Age in 1911:40 Estimated birth year:abt 1871 Relation to Head:Head Gender:Male Birth Place:York, England Civil Parish:Ecclesall County/Island:Yorkshire-West Riding Country:England Street address:42 Birkendale Upperthorpe Sheffield Marital Status:Married Occupation:Silversmiths Manager Registration district:Ecclesall Bierlow Registration District Number:509 Sub-registration district:Ecclesall West Central ED, institution, or vessel:12 Piece:27732
Household Members:
Wm B Bagshaw 40 Emma Bagshaw 37 Doris M Bagshaw 13 John Bagshaw 11 >>>>Appears as James in 1901 Harold Bagshaw 2
(Married 14 years...........3 children born and living)
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1 May 2014 23:58 |
HOWEVER - in census 1881 there is an Eliza born c1875 with a sister called Margaret, and father named THOMAS, so are they sisters after all, and 'William' Donelley on Eliza's marriage record that Gins posted some sort of mistranscription?
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Name: Eliza Donley [Eliza Donnelly] Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relationship to Head: Daughter Father: Thomas Donley Mother: Jemima Donley Gender: Female Where born: Ecclesfield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Ecclesfield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Porters Houses Lane End Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Wortley Sub-registration district: Ecclesfield ED, institution, or vessel: 15b Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4618 Folio: 134 Page Number: 52 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Donley 37 Jemima Donley 32 Ellin Donley 14 Mary A. Donley 10 Margaret Donley 8<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Eliza Donley 6<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< John Donley 4 Thomas Donley 1
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1 May 2014 23:54 |
Re ArgyllGran's post, Margaret married same day as Eliza, but seems to have a different father, Thomas, not William.
Marriages Dec 1895 Bagshaw William Wortley 9c 417 Donelley Eliza Wortley 9c 417 Donelley Margaret Wortley 9c 417 Mitchell William Wortley 9c 417
Name: William Mitchell Birth Date: 1871 Birthplace: Age: 24 Spouse's Name: Margaret Donelley Spouse's Birth Date: 1872 Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: 23 Event Date: 04 Dec 1895 Event Place: Chapeltown (Near Ecclesfield), York, England Father's Name: Joseph Mitchell Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Donelley Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03077-3 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1938087 Reference ID: item 2 p 181
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1 May 2014 23:48 |
Joseph still with Mary Frances in 1911:
Name: Joseph Bagshaw Age in 1911: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Tinsley County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding Country: England Street address: 84 Bawtry Rd, Tinsley Nr Sheffield Marital Status: Married Occupation: Blacksmith Registration district: Rotherham Registration District Number: 511 Sub-registration district: South East Rotherham ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Piece: 28071
Household Members: Name Age Joseph Bagshaw 47 Frances Mary Bagshaw 46 Edith Annie Bagshaw John William Bagshaw 19 Arthur Bagshaw 16 Sarah Alice Bagshaw 14 Minnie Bagshaw 12 Annie Franics Bagshaw 10 Jane Bagshaw 5
Married 26 years, 7 children born of marriage, 6 still living at time of census 1911.
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1 May 2014 23:42 |
There seems to be this marriage for the brother, Joseph Bagshaw:
England Marriages, 1538–1973 "
Name: Joseph Bagshaw Birth Date: 1863 Birthplace: Age: 21 Spouse's Name: Frances Mary Laughton Spouse's Birth Date: 1863 Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: 21 Event Date: 23 Jun 1884 Event Place: Chapeltown, York, England (Parish Record) Father's Name: William Bagshaw Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: Dickinson Laughton Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03077-2 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1938087 Reference ID: 244
Census 1891:
Name: Joseph Bagshaw Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Frances M Bagshaw Gender: Male Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Brightside Bierlow Ecclesiastical parish: Wincobank County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Household Members: Name Age Joseph Bagshaw 26 Blacksmith's striker Frances M Bagshaw 26
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Janette
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1 May 2014 19:48 |
hi thanks again
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ArgyllGran
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1 May 2014 19:25 |
Probably the same marriage. (Was Margaret her sister??)
Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%) Bagshaw William Wortley 9c 417 Donelley Eliza Wortley 9c 417 Donelley Margaret Wortley 9c 417 Mitchell William Wortley 9c 417
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1 May 2014 19:23 |
?? England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about William Bagshaw Name:William Bagshaw Gender:Male Age:26 Birth Date:1869 Marriage Date:4 Dec 1895 Marriage Place:Chapeltown Near Ecclesfield, York, England Father: William Bagshaw Spouse: Eliza Donelley FHL Film Number:1938087
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1 May 2014 19:22 |
1901
Name: Eliza Bagshaw Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: William B Bagshaw Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Nether Hallam Ecclesiastical parish: Walkley St Mary Town: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration district: Hallam ED, institution, or vessel: 48 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4344 Folio: 130 Page Number: 10 Household schedule number: 63 Household Members: Name Age William B Bagshaw 30, silver gold works manager Eliza Bagshaw 27 Don M Bagshaw 3 James Bagshaw 1 Ann M Bagshaw 27 sister
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Janette
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1 May 2014 19:12 |
thankyou for your help, :-)
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Gee
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1 May 2014 18:53 |
There is this..........
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:Eliza Donelley
Gender:Female
Age:21
Birth Date:1874
Marriage Date:4 Dec 1895
Marriage Place:Chapeltown Near Ecclesfield, York, England
Father: William Donelley
Spouse: William Bagshaw
FHL Film Number:1938087
The Bagshaws, were big land owners in Sheffield
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Janette
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1 May 2014 18:40 |
i have a eliza donley in my tree born 1875 sheffield i can not find a marriage for her i thought she married william bagshaw born 1870 sheffield but some one contacted me saying they thought she married joseph bagshaw born 1864 sheffield williams brother,i can not find a marriage in any of the names can some one please help thankyou
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