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Thanks for your reply, I can't believe how helpful people are!

The family you have found, with Thomas and Jane Young as the parents of William seems to be on the right track.

William named his children almost exactly the same as those of his parents.

My mother-in-law is his youngest daughter.

Her siblings were Jane, Ada, Elizabeth, Emma, Alice, Albert, Marian and William.
Thanks

Jan

This looks to be the family safc found in 1901:-

1901 England Census about William Young
Name: William Young
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Spouse: Elizabeth Young
Father: John Young
Mother: Sarah Young
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liscard
Ecclesiastical parish: New Brighton St James
Town: New Brighton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Painter House

Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Wallasey
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3401
Folio: 43
Page Number: 18
Household schedule number: 70
Household Members:
Name Age
John Young 51 - Cab Driver Goom
Sarah Young 49
Lily Young 23
Jane Young 31
James Young 20
Sarah Young 13
John Young 11
William Young 25 - Married
Elizabeth Young 26 - Daughter in Law


.................so even with this family the parents didn't die when the children were young?

However, ancestry does give a link to parents John and Sarah in 1910 & 1920 American census?

Well done safc that looks to be the other family.

So which one is the correct one?

...........and ancestry associates marriage record with this 1851 census:-

1851 England Census about Thomas Edward Young
Name: Thomas Edward Young
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Young
Mother's name: Elizabeth Young
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: No occupation, occasional scholar

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Islington
ED, institution, or vessel: 1v
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 135
Piece: 2185
Folio: 275
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
John Young 50 born: Liverpool, Lancashire,
Elizabeth Young 50 born: Newton, Devon
Thomas Edward Young 15
William Young 12
James Wallace 22
Jane Wallace 20

...............although father's occupation is now Dock Porter

"If" the ancestry tree is correct, then this is the marriage of Thomas and Jane:-

Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about Thomas Young
Name: Thomas Young
Birth Year: abt 1835
Age: 21
Occupation:- Coachman
Marriage Date: 21 Sep 1856
Parish: Liverpool, St John
Spouse's Name: Jane Mason
Occupation:- Boatman
Father's Name: John Young
Occupation:- Brewer
Spouse Father's Name: James Mason
Reference Number: 283 JOH/3/11
Address (for both) Peter's Lane

John Young, "England and Wales Census, 1881"
Name: John Young
Age (Original): 28
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1853
Birthplace: New Brighton, Cheshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Groom (Horsekeeper)
Address: 1 Plantation View
Event Place: Liscard, Cheshire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341859
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 3589 / 61
Page Number: 5
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head John Young M 28 New Brighton, Cheshire, England
Wife Sarah Young F 29 Oswestry, Shropshire, England
Son William Young M 5 Liverpool, Lancashire, England xxxx
Daughter Lilly Young F 3 New Brighton, Cheshire, England
Daughter Jane Young F 0 New Brighton, Cheshire, England

At Albert's marriage, father is noted as a Labourer (deceased)


Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about Albert Young
Name: Albert Young
Birth Year: abt 1873
Age: 31
Marriage Date: 21 Jun 1904
Parish: Liverpool, St Nicholas
Spouse's Name: Mary Jane Pendlebury
Father's Name: Thomas Edward Young
Spouse Father's Name: Christopher Pendlebury
Reference Number: 283 NIC/3/108

As this is Janet's first post I have sent her a message with instructions on how to return to her posting

1881 shows a brother Albert. This looks to be his baptism

Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Albert Young
Name: Albert Young
Baptism Date: 25 Sep 1870
Parish: Liverpool, All Saints
Father's Name: Thomas Young
Mother's name: Jane Young
Reference Number: 283 ALS/2/2

...........father's occupation here is Coachman?


The same family in 1871:-

1871 England Census about Albert Young
Name: Albert Young
Age: 6 Months
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas E Young
Mother's name: Jane Young
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Ambrose
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 232
Piece: 3811
Folio: 51
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas E Young 38 - Cab Driver
Jane Young 38
Elizabeth M Young 12
Emma Young 9
Alice J Young 6
Mary E Young 3
Albert Young 6 Months

...........................


1861 England Census about Thomas Young
Name: Thomas Young
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Young
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Domestic Coachman

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Islington
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 78
Piece: 2694
Folio: 40
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Young 26
Jane Young 26
Elizabeth Young 2

Possible baptism for above William?:-

Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 about William Young
Name: William Young
Birth Date: 11 Sep
Baptism Date: 21 Sep 1873
Parish: Liverpool, St Peter
Father's Name: Thomas Young
Mother's name: Jane Young
Reference Number: 283 PET/2/70

..............but father's occupation is given as Porter, so maybe not?

When and where were Lily and Jane born?

This does look to be 2 different families, what you need to work out is which one is the correct one?

Someone on ancestry has this :-


William Young (Kane Family Tree)
Birth: Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 (Jan 1876) - Lancashire, England
Marriage: 29 Jul 1906 - Liverpool, Lancashire
Death: Dec 1949 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Parents: Thomas Young, Jane Mason
Spouse: Annie Fernandez

.........which fits with the marriage.

Janet
Where did you get the information from that his father was called John. According to the marriage records his father was Thomas Edward. He was a Bachelor when he married Annie and his father Thomas was a labourer. Witnesses were John Charles Smith and Mary E. Dawson
Are you sure you are on the right track?
Is he a direct relative?

I'm figuring that this is him in 1901 because of the presence of Mary Dawson

Name: William Young
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Ambrose
County/Island: Lancashire
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Dawson 35
Mary E Dawson 32
Marian Dawson 12
Alice Dawson 15
Albert Young 29
William Young 26

Both William and what looks like his brother Albert are dock labourers. Mary E Dawson is his sister Mary Ellen. She married Charles Dawson in 1886.

So maybe this is him in 1881 with his parents

Name: William Young
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Thomas Young
Mother: Jane Young
Gender: Male
Where born: L pool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 10 Prince Edwin Lane
Sub-registration district: Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3656
Folio: 94
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Young 48
Jane Young 48
Elizabeth Young 22
Alice Young 16
Mary Young 13
Albert Young 10
William Young 7

Hi Janet and Welcome to the Community boards

1911 for info only

Name: William Young
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 9 Stewart St Preston
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Labourer On Railway
Registration district: Preston
Registration District Number: 476
Sub-registration district: West Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 25314
Household Members:
Name Age
William Young 35
Annie Young 25
Jane Young 4
Ada Young 2
Mary Jane Fernander 53
Charles Fernander 26

Hi everyone, Can you help,
I have lost track of William Young born 1876 Liverpool. I have been told His parents (John Young and Sarah nee Oakes) died when he was young and he moved to America, Pennsylvania with his sisters Lily and Jane.
I have a feeling he married twice, he was back in Liverpool, Birkenhead or Preston early 1900's, married Annie Fernandez in 1907, she was 10 years younger than him.
They had 9 children who survived.
He seems to have worked on the railways.
He died c1949 and Annie remarried, she died in Holywell, north wales in 1956.

I am looking to find his 1st wife as I can't find him in America. In the 1901 census he seems to be living with his parents, siblings and a wife, Elizabeth?? Am I barking up the wrong tree?