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Christine
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27 Mar 2014 13:13 |
I am helping a neighbour who has just started to research her family history. We have a hiccup with this chap and would appreciate some help please. He was her GG Grandfather.
We believe this to be his birth reg:
Births Dec 1841 Prodger Samuel Eastbourne 7 300
We cannot see him on the 1851 Census (but we have all subsequent census plus marriage and death).
Can anyone else spot him? Or find a baptism please?
Many Thanks
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Thelma
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27 Mar 2014 13:16 |
1851 England Census about Samuel Proogea Name: Samuel Proogea [Samuel Prodger] Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Relation: Son Father's Name: Edward Proogea Mother's name: Mary Ann Proogea Gender: Male Where born: Eastbourne, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Eastbourne County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image Registration district: Eastbourne Sub-registration district: Westham ED, institution, or vessel: 1d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 48 Piece: 1637 Folio: 191 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Edward Proogea 51 Mary Ann Proogea 34 Ruth Proogea 11 Samuel Proogea 9 Mary Ann Proogea 1 Thomas Proogea 1 Mo
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Christine
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27 Mar 2014 13:19 |
No wonder we couldn't find it! We don't speak double-dutch!
Very many thanks Thelma.
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greyghost
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27 Mar 2014 13:23 |
Is this the family, you didn't give us any other clues to help our search!
Ancestry has the name as Proogea which has a correction to Prodger. This is the FMP version
1851 census transcription details for: Sea Side Road, Eastbourne
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 1637 Folio: 191 Page: 12 Reg. District: Eastbourne Sub District: Eastbourne Parish: Eastbourne Enum. District: 1D Ecclesiastical District: Trinity City/Municipal Borough: Address: Sea Side Road, Eastbourne County: Sussex Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born PROOGIE, Edward Head Married M 51 1800 Bricklayer Eastbourne, Sussex PROOGIE, Mary Ann Wife Married F 32 1819 Middlesex PROOGIE, Ruth Daughter F 11 1840 ScholarEastbourne, Sussex PROOGIE, Samuel Son M 2 1849 Eastbourne, Sussex PROOGIE, Mary Ann Daughter F 1 1850 Eastbourne, Sussex PROOGIE, Thomas Son M 0 (1 MOS) 1851 Eastbourne, Sussex
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safc
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27 Mar 2014 13:24 |
1851 Census 6 Records found Piece: HO107/1637 Place: Eastbourne -Sussex Enumeration District: 1d Civil Parish: Eastbourne Ecclesiastical Parish: Eastbourne Folio: 191 Page: 12 Schedule: 48 Address: Seaside Road
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks PRODGER Edward Head M M 51 Bricklayer Employing 8 Men Sussex - Eastbourne PRODGER Mary Ann Wife M F 53 Middlesex - - PRODGER Ruth Dau - F 11 Scholar Sussex - Eastbourne PRODGER Samuel Son - M 9 Scholar Sussex - Eastbourne PRODGER Mary Ann Dau - F 1 Sussex - Eastbourne PRODGER Thomas Son - M 1m Sussex - Eastbourne
http://www.freecen.org.uk/
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MargaretM
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27 Mar 2014 13:27 |
They're Prodger in 1841:
1841 England Census about Ruth Prodger Name: Ruth Prodger Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Gender: Female Where born: Sussex, England Civil Parish: Eastbourne Hundred: Eastbourne County/Island: Sussex Country: England Registration district: Eastbourne Sub-registration district: Eastbourne Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1114 Book: 12 Folio: 10 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Edward Prodger 40 Mary Prodger 25 Sarah Prodger 8 Stephen Prodger 6 William Prodger 4 Ruth Prodger 1
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Thelma
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27 Mar 2014 13:27 |
There is a tree on Ancestry which may help you. EVERETT / NICHOLSON Family Tree
Public Member Tree 6 attached records, 6 sources Samuel Prodger
Birth: bef 30 Dec 1841 (30 Dec 1841) - Sussex, England Marriage: 18 Feb 1868 - Kingston upon Thames, Surrey, England Spouse: Sarah Elizabeth Croydon
It can be viewed for free at:- http://www.mundia.com/gb/
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Chris Ho :)
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27 Mar 2014 13:43 |
Prodger Edward & Son, builders & contractors, 1 Ceylon place Prodger William & Son, plumbers & glaziers, South street Prodger (Miss), lodging house, 27 Cavendish place Prodger Charles, lodging house, 26 Cavendish place Prodger David, lodging house, 25 Cavendish place Prodger Edward, lodging house, 3 Robertson pl. Susan's rd Prodger John, plumber & glazier, 2 Terminus road Prodger John, jun. lodging house, 20 Ceylon place Prodger William, lodging house, 27 Ceylon place
http://www.sandh.me.uk/ssx1867/eastbourne1867e.html
(above, if anybody relating!)
Chris :)
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Christine
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27 Mar 2014 13:47 |
Hi Stuart
We couldn't give you any other clues because Samuel was born after the 1841 Census and had left home by the 1861 Census. That's why we needed to find him in 1851 to find out who his parents were!
Thanks x
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safc
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27 Mar 2014 13:49 |
1861 Census 8 Records found Piece: RG9/567 Place: Eastbourne -Sussex Enumeration District: 3F Civil Parish: Eastbourne Ecclesiastical Parish: Holy Trinity Folio: 54 Page: 7 Schedule: 36 Address: 1 Bourne St Devonshire Villa
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks PRODGER Edward Head M M 61 Builder Mason Master Sussex - Eastbourne PRODGER Mary A Wife M F 48 London - - PRODGER Ruth Dau U F 21 Sussex - Eastbourne PRODGER Samuel Son U M 19 Builder Mason Journeyman Sussex - Eastbourne xxxxxx Page: 54/8 PRODGER Thomas Son - M 10 Scholar Sussex - Eastbourne PRODGER Benjamin Son - M 7 Scholar Sussex - Eastbourne PRODGER Daniel Son - M 5 Scholar Sussex - Eastbourne PRODGER Hannah S Dau - F 1 Sussex - Eastbourne
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Chris Ho :)
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27 Mar 2014 14:02 |
Sussex Advertiser Publication date:Tuesday 13 December 1864
Deaths Prodger. —Dec. 7, at Eastbourne, of consumption, Annie, wife of Mr. Samuel Prodger, aged 26, also, on the 9th inst., Edward Henry, infant son of the above, aged nine weeks.
Chris :)
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Christine
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27 Mar 2014 14:10 |
Thanks for all the extra info folks.
I am having problems with family search at the moment (it says it cannot support my browser and I have to update it). Which I will do when I figure out how to do it!
In the meantime, can anyone find a marriage for Edward & Mary Ann please? Or a baptism for Edward c1800 in Eastbourne?
Thankyou
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Christine
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27 Mar 2014 14:35 |
Sorry Stuart! I have just noticed the 1861 Census that safc posted and see that Samuel is with his family. I think I got him mixed up with his son Harry Croydon Prodger!
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Christine
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27 Mar 2014 15:53 |
UPDATE
I now have the marriage of Edward & Mary Ann Ward 4th April, 1832 Eastbourne.
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james
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30 Mar 2014 03:34 |
Hi Christine. This is really interesting. I'm a Croydon prodger and I've always wondered where the Croydon bit comes from. Harry Croydon is the oldest I've found with this name.
My branch of. The family was moved from Eastbourne during the war. My dad found some of our family 45 years ago and found his grandfather But can't actually remember his name. Useless! I wonder if your neighbour is a relative and if you are able to help me at all in my search?
James
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MarieCeleste
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30 Mar 2014 09:27 |
Hello James, welcome to the community boards. It's lucky that the thread you've found is a very recent one - often people stumble across ones that are years old where the posters may no longer be members, at least we know Christine is around.
You could click on her name to send a direct message with the details you have of your family and she may be able to connect you to her neighbour.
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Christine
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30 Mar 2014 20:23 |
Hi James
I believe my neighbours family was also evacuated during the war and ended up in Gloucestershire.
Her grandparents were Albert Croydon Prodger and Freda V Stevens. All their sons carried the Croydon middle name.
If there is a connection perhaps you could contact me off board as I obviously need to speak to my neighbour before sharing any other info!
Kind Regards Christine
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