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Jennifer
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26 Mar 2014 09:02 |
Hi Thank you both as you seem to have gone to a lot of trouble but as you say Reggie it does not resolve the problem. Yes his father was John Power Clarke who originated from Ireland who was a bandmaster. I do have a lot of info on the Clarkes but not on Onslow except he had loads of Children, Henry my grandfather being one of them. Story goes that when he died his wife burnt all his things! I do not think he was a nice man! You have both given me a few more names i did not have. Onslow was only born in Edinburgh as his father moved around a lot with the "band" Do not know who his mother was. His father married again after his wife died. jenny
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greyghost
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25 Mar 2014 17:49 |
And what's the betting that Jennifer already has it !! Have edited my post re Pomet/Power
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ErikaH
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25 Mar 2014 17:44 |
Of course, we're all having fun finding this 'stuff'.......but none of it resolves the actual problem...........!
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25 Mar 2014 17:40 |
Marriages Jun 1864 (>99%) Betts Thomas St Martin 1a 671 Clarke William Henry Power St Martin 1a 671 Rose Ellen St Martin 1a 671 Sloman Sarah Jane St Martin 1a 671
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ErikaH
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25 Mar 2014 17:38 |
Well...................that's a surprise.
..........thanks, Gins
I'd like to bet there's an indirect link...........I wonder if 'Power' is the correct version of 'Pomet ' in the record Stuart posted
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greyghost
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25 Mar 2014 17:36 |
John Power Clarke was Onslow's father - see the post I made earlier - there has to be a connection! Quite a bit on here, more particularly about his father who had a long and looks like distinguished military career as musician/bandsman
http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-38835.html
There is a Herbert Onslow Clarke b 1846, father William b 1813 a Solicitor on the 1851 census in Islington and looks like Herbert's daughter Liian's christening 1872 at St Michael and All Angels, Ladbroke Grove. Herbert a Gentleman.
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Gee
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25 Mar 2014 17:24 |
Reggie, seems not
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:Cecil Onslow Power Clarke
Gender:Male
Baptism Date: 27 Feb 1884
Baptism Place:Christ Church, Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Father: William Henry Charles Clarke
Mother: Sarah Jane Clark
FHL Film Number:2214585
Reference ID:338
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ErikaH
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25 Mar 2014 17:20 |
I can't think that this child isn't connected, but his birth is all I can find
Births Mar 1884 (>99%) Clarke Cecil Onslow P Chelsea 1a 348
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greyghost
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25 Mar 2014 17:11 |
Looks like there was an earlier Elizabeth born to Onslow where he is listed as Musician 2nd Life Guards. I can't for sure say, that the record actually does read Pomet for her 3rd given name but whatever it is may be a throw back to an ancestors name
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Elizabeth Jane Pomet Clarke Name: Elizabeth Jane Pomet Clarke <<<<<<<<< Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 7 Dec 1877 Father's Name: Onslow Charles Henry Clarke Mother's name: Elizabeth Clarke Parish or Poor Law Union: Christ Church, Albany Street Borough: Camden Register Type: Parish Registers
EDIT - my thoughts are now that it will say Power, Onslow's fathers middle name.
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25 Mar 2014 17:07 |
Quite a bit on here, more particularly about his father who had a long and looks like distinguished military career as musician/bandsman
http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-38835.html
It would seem they were a military family and I just wonder if Onslow (on the census as Henry) in 1881 is there as a Corporal in the Guards, maybe he was still serving 1891 (when he is listed as Musician) and onwards and that he died overseas? Or he could be a civilian and be overseas of course.
Maud Jane is also on the baptism record that Gins found - born April 18th 1889. I was looking to see what his occupation was at that time. It gives musician.
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ErikaH
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25 Mar 2014 17:06 |
ONCERT AT CLUB HOUSE. entertainment. The instrumentalist include Capt. Shaw-Hellier, 4th Dragoon Guards; L. Murphy, Esq., 4th Dragoon Guards; Master Onslow Clarke (from the Dublin Exhibition Palace Concerts). In addition to this array of talent, the band of the 54th Regiment, under Aldershot Military Gazette South East, England 28/09/1867
the world. The vocal parts will be taken Miss Anna Jewell, great favorite the London Concerts; and the wellknown Master Onslow Clarke will display his talent as a pianist. We understand that arrangements have been made to admit, free of charge, twenty bandsmen Aldershot Military Gazette South East, England 28/03/1868
CONCERT AT THE CLUB HOUSE. Guards; ballad, When we are Parted," Capt. Lockhart, D.A.A.G. ; pianoforte solo, fantasia, The Armourer of Nantes," Master Onslow Clarke ; recitative ed aria " L'Amor tuo" (Roberto Devereux), Miss Banks; duet, Capt. Goodenough, R.A., and F. Debret, Esq.; valse, Banks and Capt. Goodenough, R.A.; solo, F. Debret, Esq.; pianoforte solo, air with variations, " Home, Sweet Home," Master Onslow Clarke ; duet, Miss Banks and F. Debret, Esq.; aria, "Eri tv che macchiavi," (TJn Ballo in Maschera,) Capt. Goodenough, R.A.; Aldershot Military Gazette South East, England 05/10/1867
...........and several others in similar vein
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25 Mar 2014 17:03 |
CONCERT AT THE CLUB HOUSE. which was very well rendered, although could not help noticing a slight nervousness visible in the lady's voice. Master Onslow Clarke, a promising young pianist, gave a Fantasia on Scutch Airs with variations, Harvey, in which he displayed his command of Aldershot Military Gazette South East, England 04/04/1868
GRAND CONCERT. euphonium f the Italian Opera and London Concerts; Mr. G. Clinton, solo clarionet her Majesty's private band ; Master Onslow Clarke, the youthful pianist; and a quintette from the Courtois Brass Band Union, wil appear with Mr. J. P. Clarke as Director Aldershot Military Gazette South East, England 21/03/1868
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25 Mar 2014 16:34 |
Up to 1895
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Onalow Charles Clarke
Name:Onalow Charles Clarke Year:1895 County or Borough:Islington Ward or Division/Constituency:Finsbury, Holborn Street address:95 Cavendish buildings
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Gee
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25 Mar 2014 16:23 |
Seems he is still around in 1893
Name: Ethel Norah Clarke Mother: Elizabeth Clara Clarke Father: Onslow Charles Henry Clarke Birth: Gray´s Inn Road Holy Trinity Baptism: 26 Nov 1893 - Gray´s Inn Road Holy Trinity
Robert is also on the same record and he was born Aug 21 1893
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ErikaH
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25 Mar 2014 16:19 |
It could be, of course, that he died somewhere other than England/Wales
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Jennifer
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25 Mar 2014 16:11 |
Hello Reggie Thanks for all that info. He must have only been about 47 when he died. I have looked under all his first names with no luck
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ErikaH
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25 Mar 2014 15:28 |
Have you looked for a death for him using variants?
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ErikaH
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25 Mar 2014 15:28 |
1881 census
Person: CLARKE, Elizabeth L Address: 46, Cumberland Mkt, St Pancras
CLARKE, Henry Head Married M 28 1853 Corporal 2nd L Guards Scotland VIEW CLARKE, Eliza C Wife Married F 24 1857 St Lukes, Middlesex VIEW CLARKE, Elizabeth L Daughter Single F 0 1881 St Pancras, Middlesex
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25 Mar 2014 15:20 |
1901 census
Person: CLARKE, Elizabeth Address: 53, Warner Road, Walthamstow CLARKE, Elizabeth Head Widow F 45 1856 Dressmaker Chelsea, London VIEW CLARKE, Ethel N Daughter Single F 11 1890 School Girl Hammersmith, London VIEW CLARKE, Robert T Son M 7 1894 School Girl Hobborn, London VIEW CLARKE, Harry E Son M 5 1896 Woodgreen, Middlesex VIEW ELKINTON, Elizabeth Mother Widow F 73 1828 Living With Daughter Chelsea, London VIEW CLARKE, John Son Single M 18 1883 Private Gienariel Guards Windsor, Berkshire
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25 Mar 2014 15:18 |
For INFO
1891 census
Person: CLARKE, Onslow C H Address: 106, Glenthorne Road, Hammersmith CLARKE, Onslow C H Head Married M 38 1853 Musician Edinburgh, Scotland VIEW CLARKE, Elizabeth C Wife Married F 34 1857 Chelsea, London VIEW CLARKE, Elizabeth L M Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar Regents Park, London VIEW CLARKE, Harry J Son M 8 1883 Scholar Windsor, Berkshire VIEW CLARKE, Julius D Son M 5 1886 Scholar Finsbury Park, London VIEW CLARKE, William C Son M 3 1888 Finsbury Park, London VIEW CLARKE, Maud J Daughter F 1 1890 West Green, London VIEW CLARKE, Ethel W Daughter F 0 (2M) 1891 Hammersmith, London VIEW ELKINGTON, Elizabeth Mother In Law Widow F 58 1833 Chelsea, London VIEW STRATTON, John Boarder Single M 22 1869 General Engineer Lead Factory Little Barford, Bedfordshire VIEW STRICKSON, Ernest J Boarder Single M 23 1868 Engineer Stamford, Lincolnshire
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