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Samuel Smith born 1849 in Hulme Manchester, son of Bracewell Smith and Betty Green. Sam also married an Elizabeth, probably around 1877. I can't find out her surname though. Looking on BMD there are about 6 elizabeths marrying a Sam Smith at that time! Is there any way I can find out which was 'ours' without having to order all the wedding certs?If I could just find one that identifies Bracewell Smith as father of the groom, then I can search in earnest. Thanks a lot.
Eunice

You could order one of the childrens birth certs...if there is one that stands out as being their child

also some Manchester marriages are on ancestry...so could be lucky there if father is named

oh thanks Jax, I hadn't thought about doing it that way! will try with some of the children. Thank you :-D

Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
about Samuel Smith




Name:
Samuel Smith

Birth Year:
abt 1852

Age:
24

Marriage Date:
26 Feb 1876

Parish:
Hulme, Holy Trinity

Parish as it Appears:
Hulme, Holy Trinity

Father's Name:
Bracewell Smith

Spouse's Name:
Elizabeth Dawson

Spouse's Father's Name:
Samuel Bowers Dawson

Reference Number:
GB127.M320/2/2/2

Do you want a copy?

wow!!! Thank you SO much, that is amazing!!! <3 <3

Couldn't resist looking for his parents marriage, not with a name like 'Bracewell'



West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935


Name: Bracewell Smith <<Shoe maker

Marriage or Bann Date:10 Jan 1842

Parish:Keighley

Father's Name:Henry Smith <<Farmer

Spouse's Name:Elizabeth Green

Spouse's Father's Name:Thomas Green <<Farmer

If you are researching in Lancashire..put this in your favourites

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Oh, thank you both for the extras! Yes, Bracewell is ………. unusual . int it?! And when I was looking for him I found him in quite a lot of trees, and many of the male descendants have Bracewell somewhere, either as first or second name. I don't know any of the current ones though, so have not yet been brave enough to ask of its origins! Thanks for the Lancashire link Reggie, I will keep that one :-)

Hi Eunice

The census shows him to be born in Yorkshire but this baptism is in Lancs?



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


Name:Bracewell Smith

Gender:Male

Baptism Date:1819

Baptism Place:St. Bartholomew's Church, Colne, Lancashire, England

Father:
Henry Smith

Mother:
Jane

FHL Film Number:1471024

Reference ID:Item 3 Pg 20 #155

You will also find this site useful for Lancashire:

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

These are a few of the entries I found on there which are probably related to your family somewhere along the line:


Baptism: 25 Oct 1866 St Saviour, Chorlton on Medlock, Lancashire, England
Benjamin Smith - [Child] of Bracewell Smith & Betty
Born: 11 Sep 1851
Abode: 4 Mona St. Off Medlock St.
Occupation: Carter
Baptised by: G.W. Petherick
Register: Baptisms 1854 - 1866, Page 15
Source: LDS Family Search

Baptism: 25 Oct 1866 St Saviour, Chorlton on Medlock, Lancashire, England
Sarah Jane Smith - [Child] of Bracewell Smith & Betty
Born: 14 Jan 1847
Abode: 4 Mona St. Street
Occupation: Carter
Baptised by: G.W. Petherick
Register: Baptisms 1854 - 1866, Page 15
Source: LDS Family Search

Baptism: 13 Mar 1911 Christ Church, Colne, Lancashire, England
Mary Gertrude Smith - [Child] of Martin Bracewell Smith & Margaret
Abode: 4 Sunny Bank Barrowford
Occupation: Gentleman Farmer
Notes: P.
Baptised by: T. Belshaw Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1886 - 1913, Page 186, Entry 1488
Source: Original Parish Register

There were 3 matches for this search!



Baptism: 8 Aug 1819 St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England
Bracewell Smith - [Child] of Henry Smith & Jane
Abode: Oliver in Kildwick
Occupation: Weaver
Register: Baptisms 1819 - 1825, Page 20, Entry 155
Source: LDS Film 1471024

Baptism: 25 Jul 1876 St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England
Martin Bracewell Smith - [Child] of Smith Smith, Gentleman & Ann Smith Bracewell
Born: 5 Jan 1873
Abode: Neyther Heys, Colne
Baptised by: Jno J Swann
Register: Baptims 1861 - 1876, Page 195, Entry 1555
Source: LDS Film 1471024

Marriage: 8 Jun 1898 St Paul, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Ernest Bracewell Smith - 26 years, Painter and Decorator, Bachelor, 81 Hollingreave Road
Elizabeth Ann Kearton - 22 years, Machinist, Spinster, 2 Hillmarton Street
Groom's Father: Robert Smith, Painter and Decorator
Bride's Father: John Kearton, Deceased, Farm Labourer
Witness: John George Smith; Clara Stirling; Jane Pickup; Margaret Gadier
Married by Banns by: Thomas Smith, assistant curate
Register: Marriages 1896 - 1900, Page 83, Entry 166
Source: LDS Film 1517689

Marriage: 17 Sep 1935 All Hallows, Bispham, Lancashire, England
Martin Bracewell Smith, Gentleman - 61, Widower, Airedale, Barrowford
Nellie Josephine Haighton - 56, Spinster, Inglenook, Moor Road
Groom's Father: Smith Smith, Gentleman deceased
Bride's Father: William Haighton, deceased, Tailor
Witness: Gordon Pickles; Elizabeth Demaine Haighton
Married by Licence by: Henry Ward, Rector
Register: Marriages 1931 - 1939, Page 69, Entry 137
Source: Original Register

Burial: 5 Apr 1941 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Ernest Bracewell Smith -
Age: 69yrs
Abode: 159, Woodgrove Rd.
Grave: 15385
Gender: M
Register: Burials 1940 - 1948, Page 42, Entry 113724
Source: Original Registers Book 15

There were 5 matches for this search!


Dea x

Wow! Thank you both for those contributions! Some interesting reading there. Again, Bracewell occurs so frequently, but I have not come across Martin yet although I will look him up now! Barrowford is quite near Colne geographically, and therefore quite close to Yorkshire; If Henry was a weaver at the time of his sons Baptism, maybe he was a journeyman, or just moved around looking for work. I am only just investigating this branch (of my husband's tree) so its early days yet.
Smith Smith, eh? Now that's a name in itself!
Thanks again, you have all been wonderful <3

You think Smith Smith is strange enough - I once followed a family from Lancashire where both the father and the son were called Fish Fish !!!

Surprisingly there were quite a few others over the years with the same name !!! ;-) :-D :-D

Dea Xxx