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charles stuart

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Pauline

Pauline Report 6 Mar 2014 12:30

can anybody help i am looking for the death of a charles stuart born 1883 in langholm county of dumfriess his fathers name was peter stuart born 1846 in roxburgh melrose and his mothers name was isabelle born 1851 her maiden name was ferguson on the 1911 census they lived in langholm

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2014 12:33

You will have to purchase credits for Scotlands people to look for Scottish BMD records.

£7.00 will buy 30 credits

Pauline

Pauline Report 6 Mar 2014 12:41

i have looked on that site with no look thank you for your help

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 6 Mar 2014 13:06

Have you tried the other spelling of Stuart, Pauline? i.e. Stewart.

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Mar 2014 13:08

From a tree on ancestry:-

charles stuart
Birth 1883 in langholm dumfries scotland
Death

Parents: Peter Stuart 1847 –

isabelle ferguson 1853 –

Spouse:- Jemima Crone
1889 – 1980

Child:-
jessie lamb stuart
1910 – 1987

So if this is him then he was still alive in 1909.

Maybe he died in WW1?

Will take a look.

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Mar 2014 13:14

Nothing popping out for Military?


just for ref:-

1891 Scotland Census about Charles Stewart
Name: Charles Stewart
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Peter Stewart
Gender: Male
Where born: Langholm, Dumfries Shire
Registration Number: 839
Registration district: Langholm
Civil Parish: Langholm
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: 51 Caroline St:
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 110
LINE: 2
Roll: CSSCT1891_396
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Stewart 44 - born: Melrose, Roxburgh (gardener domestic)
Margaret Stewart 19
Robert Stewart 18
Isabella I Stewart 12
George Stewart 15
Elizabeth Stewart 10
James Stewart 9
Charles Stewart 7
Mary Stewart 6
William Stewart 5

.....................................

1901 Scotland Census about Charles Stewart
Name: Charles Stewart
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Peter Stewart
Gender: Male
Where born: Langholm, dumfriesshire
Registration Number: 839
Registration district: Langholm
Civil Parish: Langholm
Town: Langholm
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: 51 Caroline St
Occupation: Factory Machine Worker
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 84
LINE: 11
Roll: CSSCT1901_433
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Stewart 54
Maggie Stewart 29
Robert Stewart 28
George Stewart 25
Isabella Stewart 22
James Stewart 19
Charles Stewart 17
Mary Stewart 16
William Stewart 15

.......both census records give name as Stewart.

Pauline

Pauline Report 6 Mar 2014 13:17

Yes that his him he was my mother in laws father when Jessie got married in 1975 she has got on her marriage certificate the he was deceased thank you for that it was kind of you to look it up as far as I no he did not marry her mother Jamaica crone she married a Gavin ritchie

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Mar 2014 13:19

With spelling Stewart there is this one in Military:-


British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about Charles Stewart
Name: Charles Stewart
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Age at enlistment: 31
Residence: 1 Grantly Gdns, Shawlands Glasgow
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 17157
Regiment Name: AS Corps
Number of Images: 12

...............this one married an Alice White on 22nd June 1916 in Glasgow, and was a Charted Accountant, so????

Pauline

Pauline Report 6 Mar 2014 13:20

On Jessie's birth certificate it is spelt Stuart for his last name

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Mar 2014 13:29

Did the birth certificate give an occupation for Charles?

Pauline

Pauline Report 6 Mar 2014 13:36

Yes it says a carter what ever that is

Pauline

Pauline Report 6 Mar 2014 13:37

His address is 2 Albert place langholm

Potty

Potty Report 6 Mar 2014 13:55

Is he on the 1911 census with Isabella and where is Isabella in 1891 and 1901. I can't view the images to see if Peter is shown as married or a widower.

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Mar 2014 14:01

Nothing noted on census records to say if Peter was married or widowed, unfortunately.

This is the family in 1881 (for info on Isabelle):-



1881 Scotland Census about Isabella Stewart
Name: Isabella Stewart
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Peter Stewart
Gender: Female
Where born: Half Morton, Dumfriesshire
Registration Number: 839
Registration district: Langholm
Civil Parish: Langholm
Town: Langholm
County: Dumfriesshire
Address: 19 Charlotte Str
ED: 9
Household schedule number: 77
LINE: 8
Roll: cssct1881_325
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Stewart 35
Isabella Stewart 30
Margaret Stewart 9
Robert Stewart 8
George Stewart 5
Isabella Jane Stewart 2
Elizabeth Stewart 10 Months

Catherine

Catherine Report 6 Mar 2014 14:04

ancestry links this to Isabelle (a):-

1901 England Census about Isabella Stewart
Name: Isabella Stewart
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation to Head: Mother-in-law
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Scotland
Civil Parish: Walton on the Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:Domestic

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3453
Folio: 165
Page Number: 34
Household schedule number: 251
Household Members:
Name Age
William Sant 34 - mounted police sergeant
Margaret E Sant 30
Margaret J Sant 5
Roland J Sant 4
William Sant 3
Dorothy M Sant 1 Month
Isabella Stewart 49

..............1881 census does show a daughter Margaret, so ?

EDIT:-

Maybe not as 1911 gives this Margaret's place of birth as Glasgow:-

1911 England Census about Margaret Cooper Sant
Name: Margaret Cooper Sant
Age in 1911: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Glasgow, Scotland
Civil Parish: Walton on the Hill
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 1 Pendleton Rd Walton Liverpool
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Piece: 22380
Household Members:
Name Age
William Sant 43
Margaret Cooper Sant 40
Margaret Isabel Sant 15
Roland John Sant 14
William Sant 13
Dorothy May Sant 10
Ernest George Sant 4
Cyril Francis Taylor 29

Pauline

Pauline Report 6 Mar 2014 14:08

I have got it down that Isabella died in 1886 not sure if this is correct

Potty

Potty Report 6 Mar 2014 14:18

So, is the 1911 census for Charles?

There is death for an Isabella Stuart, maiden name Ferguson, in Langholm or Staplegorton (this is one district name) in 1886 - only the death cert will confirm if she is the one married to Peter.

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Pauline

Pauline Report 6 Mar 2014 18:16

Thank you for that information will check it on scots people thank you for your help