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Cant find marriage information - Cornwall

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Ann

Ann Report 6 Mar 2014 11:22

My great, great grandparents were John Tippett (Tippit) and Mary Ann Francis They were born in the 1830s. Him in Kea area and she in Devonshire. They had numerous children including my great grandfather Thomas Tippett before John died in 1870 in Kenwyn. In 1872 Mary Ann moved with her family to Burnley in Lancashire.
I have been unable to find their marriage date anywhere. and could do with some more ideas and help. I think they were married as it says so on all census returns and she calls herself a widow after John's death plus they were baptists!
Thanks
Ann Hale nee Tippett

Ann

Ann Report 6 Mar 2014 11:24

After John's death Mary Ann waas a Toll gate keeper in the 1871 census on edge of Truro

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 6 Mar 2014 11:34

Could this be him with his parents please?


1841 England Census about John Tippett
Name: John Tippett
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Gender: Male
Where born: Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Kea
Hundred: Powder (West Division)
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Truro
Sub-registration district: Kea
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 147
Book: 12
Folio: 33
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos Tippett 45
Sabby Tippett 45
Wm Tippett 15
George Tippett 16
Catherine Tippett 13
Martin Tippett 11
John Tippett 9
Sally Tippett 6


1851 England Census about John Tippett
Name: John Tippett
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Tippett
Mother's name: Sarah Tippett
Gender: Male
Where born: Kea, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Kea
Ecclesiastical parish: Baldhu
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Truro
Sub-registration district: St Clement
ED, institution, or vessel: 1e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 46
Piece: 1910
Folio: 675
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Tippett 56
Sarah Tippett 57
John Tippett 18********************
Harriet Tippett 14
Elizabeth Tippett 2

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 6 Mar 2014 11:34

There are severl possible marriages that fit

Go to freebmds select marriage and enter his name and then just put (Mary) in the Spouse first name column date range 1850 to 1870


once you have the search results click on the page number to see all the people on the same page


http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Then use the census's to find who married who

Once you have the one you think fits you will still need to buy the cert to confirm it's the correct marriage

Roy

Remember, if she had been married before then her second marriage will/could be listed in a name other than her maiden name

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 6 Mar 2014 11:40

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/

(above useful, Cornwall)

Chris :)

Baptism
Day Month 10-Jun
Year 1855
Parish Or Reg District Kenwyn
Forename Thomas
Surname TIPPET
Sex
Father Forename John
Mother Forename Mary Ann
Residence New Bridge
Father Rank Profession Miner

Day Month 10-Jun
Year 1855
Parish Or Reg District Kenwyn
Forename Harriet Ann
Surname TIPPET
Sex
Father Forename John
Mother Forename Mary Ann
Residence New Bridge
Father Rank Profession Miner

Potty

Potty Report 6 Mar 2014 11:43

Is Francis Mary Ann's maiden surname, from one of the children's birth certs?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 6 Mar 2014 11:45

Ann can yougive a year of birth for John's Son Thomas please as there seem to be a fewto choose from.

Thank you.

What year was Mary Ann born please as looking at census they just seem to come from Cornwall.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 6 Mar 2014 11:57

1861 (FMP)
SIPPET, John Head Married M 28 1833 Copper Miner
Kea, Cornwall
SIPPET, Mary Ann Wife Married F 26 1835 Copper Miner Wife
Plymouth, Devon
SIPPET, Elizabeth Daughter F 9 1852
Kea, Cornwall
SIPPET, Thomas Son M 8 1853
Kea, Cornwall
SIPPET, Harriet Daughter F 6 1855
Kenwyn, Cornwall
SIPPET, Ellen Daughter F 4 1857
Kenwyn, Cornwall
SIPPET, Rebecca Daughter F 2 1859
Kenwyn, Cornwall
Piece: 1560
Folio: 49
Page: 6
Registration District: Truro
Civil Parish: Kenwyn
Municipal Borough:
Address: Liskis, Kenwyn
County: Cornwall

1871
TIPPET, Mary A Head F 34 1837 Devon
TIPPET, Elizabeth Daughter F 19 1852 Cornwall
TIPPET, Thomas Son M 18 1853 Cornwall
TIPPET, Harriett Daughter F 14 1857 Cornwall
TIPPET, Rebecca Daughter F 12 1859 Cornwall
TIPPET, John Son M 9 1862 Cornwall
TIPPET, Minnie Daughter F 3 1868 Cornwall
TIPPET, Edwin Son M 1 1870 Cornwall
Piece: 2285
Folio: 31
Page: 17
Registration District: Truro
Civil Parish: Kenwyn
Municipal Borough:
Address: Liskis Toll Bar, Kenwyn
County: Cornwall

Chris :)

Potty

Potty Report 6 Mar 2014 11:57

There is a man missing from this page:

Marriages Mar 1857 (>99%)

Francis Mary Ann Truro 5c 254 Scan available - click to view
Harriss Mary Anna Truro 5c 254 Scan available - click to view
TREZISE John Truro 5c 254

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 6 Mar 2014 12:00


1881 England Census about Mary A. Tippett
Name: Mary A. Tippett
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Habergham Eaves
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 46 Rose Hill
Marital Status: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: House Keeper

Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: Burnley
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4155
Folio: 41
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary A. Tippett 44
John Tippett 20
Frederic Tippett 11
Elizabeth Tippett 28
Harriet Tippett 26
Ellen Tippett 23
Emma J. Tippett 13
John T. Tippett 1
Tattersall Smith 19

safc

safc Report 6 Mar 2014 12:02

Name: Mary Ann Francis
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1857
Registration District: Truro
County: Cornwall
Event Place: Truro, Cornwall, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911):
Volume: 5C
Page: 254
Line Number: 20
Mary Ann Francis probably married one of the following people
Name: William Henry Buzza
Name: Mary Anna Harriss
Name: John Trezise

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 6 Mar 2014 12:07

I have been trawling the marriage index images on Freebmds for the missing man on the marriage posted in 1857 but not able to find the page for with Tib**'s listed

Anyone fancy trying?

http://images.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/choose.pl

Roy

Edit just noticed safc has posted the missing male

Potty

Potty Report 6 Mar 2014 12:08

Possible for Mary in 1851:
Mary Ann Francis
Age:18
Estimated birth year:abt 1833
Relation:Niece
Gender:Female
Where born:Plymouth, Devon, England

Civil Parish:Kenwyn
County/Island:Cornwall

Thomas Grose 51
Mary Ann Francis 18

Ann

Ann Report 6 Mar 2014 12:14

Joint replies. Many thanks all
Mel fairy Godmother - Yes Thomas born 1853 Mary Ann bc 1835 but she changes her age through various census returns!!

Porkie Pie - Thanks will try freebmd again

Chris Ho - Thanks for website. Yes that is them under Sippett - Just one letter wrong !!

Potty - Francis surname given by family member
If marriage was 1857 then this may be the scandal that older family members spoke about. She had had at lest 2/3 children before they married???

Ann

Ann Report 6 Mar 2014 12:16

Hi Potty yes that is her l believe with her uncle. But nothing known about her parents.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 6 Mar 2014 12:16

Day Month 07-Feb
Year 1857
Parish Or Reg District Kenwyn
Groom Fn William Henry
Groom Sn BUZZA
Groom Age 20
Groom Residence Chacewater
Groom Condition B
Groom Rank Profession Miner
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M)
Groom Father Name Edmund
Groom Father Rank Profession Miner
Bride Fn Mary Ann
Bride Sn FRANCIS
Bride Age 20
Bride Residence Lengath
Bride Condition S
Bride Rank Profession
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M)
Bride Father Name William
Bride Father Rank Profession Miner
Banns / Licence (B/L)
Witness Fn1 Mary
Witness Sn1 Mugford
Witness Fn2 William
Witness Sn2 Francis

(the 1857)

Chris :)

Potty

Potty Report 6 Mar 2014 12:20

A tree on Ancestry has the 1857 marriage as being to William Henry Buzza, with a date of 7th Feb; dying in 1861.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 6 Mar 2014 14:29

Her death.


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Mary Ann Tippett
Name: Mary Ann Tippett
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1891
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Burnley
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 241

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 6 Mar 2014 15:01

Burial
Day Month 01-Mar
Year 1864
Parish Or Reg District Kenwyn
Forename Thomas
Surname GROSE
Age 66
Residence Truro Union

(possible Uncle from 1851 above)

Chris :)

1861
GORSE, Thomas Inmate Widower M 62 1799 Miller
Kenwyn, Cornwall
Piece: 1557
Folio: 152
Page: 5
Registration District: Truro
Civil Parish: St Clement
Municipal Borough:
Address: St Clement
County: Cornwall
The Truro Union Workhouse


edits (no idea, but below on FMP)

Baptism
Surname:Francis
Forenames:Mary Ann
Father's Forename:Henry
Mother's Forename:Rebecca
Father's Occupation:Carrier (or Currier)
Year:1834
Month:Oct
Day:23
Abode:Kinterbury St
Parish:St Andrew
Town Or City:Plymouth
County:Devon