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Rondog
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5 Mar 2014 17:35 |
James was born 2 February 1894 in Southwark, Westminster of Arthur Cecil Martin (1867-1932) and Elizabeth Marshall (1871-1899). I have tried my hardest and can find nothing on him since the 1901 Census when he was staying with his Aunt, Mrs Rowena Dinger (nee Marshall).
Can anyone help please?
He was my grandfathers son by his first wife!
Rondog :-S
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Chris Ho :)
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5 Mar 2014 18:07 |
Name:James Cecil Martin (as Cecil James on image) Baptism Date:25 Mar 1894 (Born 6 Feb 1894) Father's Name:Arthur Cecil Martin (Machine Minder?) Mother's name:Elizabeth Martin Parish or Poor Law Union:St George the Martyr Borough:Southwark Register Type:Parish Registers (abode, 223, Scovell Road)
1901 (reference) DINGER, Arthur Head Married M 31 1870 Contractors Clerk Shoreditch, London DINGER, Rosina Wife Married F 25 1876 Westminster, London DINGER, Ethel Wife Married F 5 1896 Westminster, London MARTIN, Cecil Visitor Single M 7 1894 Southwark, London Piece: 227 Folio: 14 Page: 20 Registration District: Hackney Civil Parish: Hackney Municipal Borough: Address: 49, Middleton Road, Hackney County: London
Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------ Dinger Arthur Adolphus St.Saviour 1d 251 Marshall Rosina St. Saviour 1d 251
Marriages Jun 1892 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------- Marshall Elizabeth St. Saviour 1d 317 Martin Arthur Cecil St.Saviour 1d 317
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Maddie
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5 Mar 2014 18:07 |
I wonder ??
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Cecil J Martin Name: Cecil J Martin Gender: Male Age: 7 Birth Date: abt 1894 Departure Date: 19 Sep 1901 Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination Port: Quebec, Canada Ship Name: Tunisian Search Ship Database: Search the 'Tunisian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: Allan Line Master: A H Paron
all the passengers were children
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Catherine
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5 Mar 2014 18:08 |
He may have gone to Canada?
Cecil James Martin in entry for Baby Martin, "Ontario Deaths,1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947" Name: Baby Martin Event Type: Death Event Date: 15 Aug 1923 Event Place: Toronto, York, Ontario Gender: Female Age: 0 Birth Date: 15 Aug 1923 Birthplace: Toronto
Father's Name: Cecil James Martin
Mother's Name: Mary Martin Spouse's Name: Reference ID: yr 1923 cn 6248 GS Film number: 1976685 Digital Folder Number: 4171320 Image Number: 484
Name: Cecil J Martin Event Type: Immigration Event Date: Sep 1901 Event Place: Quebec City, Quebec, Canada Gender: Male Age: 7 Birth Year (Estimated): 1894 Birthplace: England Ship Name: Tunisian Affiliate Publication Number: Affiliate Film Number: T-480 Digital Folder Number: 004541768 Image Number: 00799 Place of ultimate destination:- Peterboro
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Catherine
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5 Mar 2014 18:09 |
I don't have ancestry world wide so can't view to see if this is him:-
Cecil James Martin Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
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Maddie
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5 Mar 2014 18:14 |
just in case
Name: Baby Martin Event Type: Death Event Date: 15 Aug 1923 Event Place: Toronto, York, Ontario Gender: Female Age: 0 Birth Date: 15 Aug 1923 Birthplace: Toronto Birth Year (Estimated): Burial Date: Burial Place: Father's Name: Cecil James Martin Mother's Name: Mary Martin Spouse's Name: Reference ID: yr 1923 cn 6248 GS Film number: 1976685 Digital Folder Number: 4171320 Image Number: 484
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Catherine
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5 Mar 2014 18:19 |
Rondog, You may want to add (possibly Canada) to your heading so our Canadian cousins can take a look just in case the above does relate to him.
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Chris Ho :)
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5 Mar 2014 18:23 |
Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918 Name:Cecil James Martin Residence:Toronto, Ontario Birth Date:7 Feb 1894 Birth Location:London, England Relative:Mrs Daisy Lee Relationship:Aunt (44, Camberwell Road, London) Trade/Calling: Lunch Business Present Address: 190, Simcoe Street, Toronto, Ont. Dated 3/1/1916 Chris :)
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MargaretM
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5 Mar 2014 18:24 |
Records of Canadian soldiers WW1 are free here:
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/search.aspx
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MargaretM
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5 Mar 2014 18:30 |
He was a home child:
Home Children (1869-1930) Item Display Return to results | Search | Search HelpSurname: MARTINGiven Name: Cecil JAge: 7Sex: MShip: TunisianYear of Arrival: 1901Departure Port: LiverpoolDeparture Date: 1907-09-19Arrival Port: QuebecArrival Date: 1901-09-27Party: Barnardo HomesComments: Group of 117 children from Dr.Barnardo's to Toronto and Manitoba.Source: Library and Archives CanadaReference: RG 76 C1aMicrofilm: T-480Type of Record: Passenger ListsGroup of Children Traveling Together
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MargaretM
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5 Mar 2014 18:35 |
Did he have siblings? There were 5 other Martin children on that ship:
Rosa 15 Mary 14 George 11 Alice 10
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Dea
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5 Mar 2014 18:59 |
This is a link to the Canadian 1911 census image which may well be him.
He was born Feb 1894, though it has him down as Irish?
Do you think his parents might have been Irish?
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/jpg/e001997413.jpg
Dea x
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Chris Ho :)
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5 Mar 2014 19:04 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1244355?d=asc
(relating info.)
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Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980 Name:Cecil J Martin Occupation:Clerk Year:1935 Location:Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Electoral District:Vancouver North (Pandora, 4115) (also Martin, Mrs. Cecil J. Housewife)
Cecil James Martin (no,looks like Marriage 1920, Frances Mary Rothwell, James Martin, Father) Occupation:Retired Year:1965 Location:Broadview, Ontario, Canada Electoral District:Broadview (also Mary Martin)
Cecil James Martin Occupation:Retired Year:1968 Location:Burnaby; Seymour, British Columbia, Canada Electoral District:Burnaby-Seymour
(not sure if relating)
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Rondog
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12 Apr 2014 21:56 |
Many thanks to Chris, Maddie, Catherine and Margee; you have been a big help. For Dea, Cecil was not of Irish descent. Need to do some more investigating, as you said, through our Canadian cousins. Thanks again.
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ArgyllGran
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12 Apr 2014 23:36 |
Another related thread:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1339394?jump=1339394
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