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5 Mar 2014 09:12 |
mgnv - cheers! Useful website to have as well.....
Jude
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5 Mar 2014 06:33 |
Using http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/ confirms a couple of hypothesized marrs.
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1879 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference CORDING William WILLIAMS Elizabeth Wednesbury, St Bartholomew Sandwell Register Office 32/6/38
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1864 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference CORDING William HOWELL Mary Wednesbury, St John Sandwell Register Office 34/2/57
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4 Mar 2014 07:43 |
1861 (reference) CORDEN, Ruth Head F 46 1815 Laundress Bilston, Staffordshire CORDEN, Robert Son To Head Unmarried M 15 1846 Stone Miner Gospel Oak, Staffordshire CORDEN, Thomas Son Unmarried M 12 1849 Coal Miner Bilston, Staffordshire CORDEN, Joseph Son M 10 1851 Coal Engine Driver Bilston, Staffordshire CORDEN, Jonathan Son M 8 1853 Scholar Bilston, Staffordshire Piece: 2005 Folio: 132 Page: 17 Registration District: Wolverhampton Civil Parish: Bilston Municipal Borough: Address: 18, Pipes Meadow, Bilston County: Staffordshire
Baptism Place Bilston Church St Leonard RegisterNumber 3452 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 25 Oct 1846 Forename Robert Sex M FatherForename William MotherForename Catherine FatherSurname CORDEN MotherSurname Abode Gospel Oak Tipton FatherOccupation Miner
(would say very likely!)
Not seeing others though, or Brother Samuel, and still Death for Mother...
Chris :)
Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------- CORDING Isaiah Pontefract 9c 155 CORDING Mary Ann Pontefract 9c 155 PIPER Caroline Pontefract 9c 155 PIPER Thomas Pontefract 9c 155
(above for others)
edits (saw below, Bilston)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/parishes/sts/b.shtml#1
Publication:Leeds Times Publication date:Saturday 24 May 1890
At the Pontefract Police Court, on Saturday, William Cording and George Smith, miners, Featherstone, were ordered to pay £2 each damages and costs for absenting themselves from their employment at Featherstone Main Colliery at various dates.
(Son of Robert above!)
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4 Mar 2014 06:52 |
Chris
Possible death for Mary?
Deaths Mar 1872 (>99%) CORDENS Mary 39 Walsall 6b 443
I think this is probably her...
Name: Mary Ann Cording Birth Year: abt 1860 Age: 21 Marriage or Bann Date: 25 Dec 1881 Parish: Featherstone, All Saints Father's Name: William Cording Spouse's Name: Thomas Piper Spouse's Father's Name: John Piper
And as you point out with the bmd Thomas was the brother of Caroline who married Isaiah.
I have trawled 1861 census until my eyes hurt :-0
Can anyone find a death for mother Catherine? In 1861 I believe she is with Robert who is listed separately on the page after her and Thomas, Jonathan and Joseph who are separate again. She is listed as Ruth but everything else fits too well. So either Catherine died and William married Ruth before he died in 1854 or Ruth is Catherine.
But I haven't found her in 1871 nor have I found a death for her.
Off to work now - crossing off events slowly but surely!
Jude
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3 Mar 2014 08:10 |
Births Dec 1858 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------- Cording Elizabeth Walsall 6b 459
Burial County Staffordshire Place Darlaston Church St. George RegisterNumber 440 BurialDate 08 Mar 1860 Forename Elizabeth Relationship Rel1MaleForename Rel1FemaleForename Rel1Surname Surname CORDING Age 15m Abode New St
(could have been another)
Burial (Father?) County Staffordshire Place Bilston Church Swan Bank Wesleyan Chapel RegisterNumber 28324 BurialDate 22 May 1854 Forename William Relationship Rel1MaleForename Rel1FemaleForename Rel1Surname Surname CORDING Age 39 Abode Bilston Notes Recorded by Henry SMALLWOOD
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3 Mar 2014 07:44 |
http://genealogy.heydon.org/streets?p=Darlaston
New Street 2009 119 8 Darlaston Darlaston Darlaston New Street 2009 144 12 Darlaston Darlaston Darlaston
(Piece/Folio/Page ref. above, if any good!)
Chris :)
1861 (seems to start with below) SUTTON, Charles Head Married M 35 1826 Cordwainer Bilston, Staffordshire SUTTON, Phoebe Wife Married F 24 1837 Darlaston, Staffordshire SUTTON, William Son M 0 (11M) 1861 Darlaston, Staffordshire Piece: 2009 Folio: 119 Page: 8 Registration District: Walsall Civil Parish: Darlaston Municipal Borough: Address: New Street, Darlaston County: Staffordshire
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3 Mar 2014 06:45 |
Thanks all....again!
Yes William (senior) and Catherine had five children that I know of - William Samuel, Robert, Thomas and Caroline!
But where were William, Sarah and Isaiah in 1861? Never mind plenty to be going on with :-)
Jude
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2 Mar 2014 19:54 |
Thanks Chris, the baptism for Samuel does seem to confirm that the two were brothers, so all fitting together very nicely.
EDIT:- Just reread post and they are both together on the 1841 census already posted at the beginning. :-S
For ref. birth and death for poor William (jnr.)
Births Mar 1861 (>99%) CORDING William Walsall 6b 522 Deaths Mar 1861 (>99%) CORDING William Walsall 6b 352
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2 Mar 2014 19:09 |
Baptism County Staffordshire Place Bilston Church St Leonard RegisterNumber 2925 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 29 Dec 1839 Forename Samuel Sex M FatherForename William MotherForename Catherine FatherSurname CORDEN MotherSurname Abode Temple Street FatherOccupation Miner
County Staffordshire Place Bilston Church Swan Bank Wesleyan Chapel RegisterNumber 11176 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 05 Jun 1853 Forename Jonathan Sex M FatherForename William MotherForename Catherine FatherSurname CORDING MotherSurname Abode Bilston FatherOccupation Notes Born 17 May; Recorded by John KIRK
(could well be!)
Chris :)
edits (Brother/Sister)
Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------- CORDING Isaiah Pontefract 9c 155 CORDING Mary Ann Pontefract 9c 155 PIPER Caroline Pontefract 9c 155 PIPER Thomas Pontefract 9c 155
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2 Mar 2014 19:02 |
With ref. baptism for Mary Ann Corden:- If William had a brother Samuel then this could be Mary Ann in 1871 (maybe sent to live with family after the death of Sarah?
1871 England Census about Mary Ann Cordon Name: Mary Ann Cordon Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Darlaston, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Bilston Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: Bilston County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Wolverhampton Sub-registration district: Bilston ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Household schedule number: 93 Piece: 2951 Folio: 61 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Cordon 31 Sarah Cordon 27 Jonathan Cordon 17 Mary Ann Cordon 10
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2 Mar 2014 18:52 |
I had 1863 from somewhere.....................but I cannot find them :-(
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2 Mar 2014 18:47 |
Nice one Chris. So if there was a child born in 1861 Darlaston, then they should be there in 1861 census and if Sarah didn't die untill 1863, then she should be with them.
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2 Mar 2014 18:46 |
Thanks everybody! I had been wavering on Walsall being a possibility...will digest this tomorrrow
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2 Mar 2014 18:43 |
Possible death for Mary?
Deaths Mar 1872 (>99%) CORDENS Mary 39 Walsall 6b 443
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2 Mar 2014 18:08 |
Burial County Staffordshire Place Darlaston Church James Bridge Cemetery RegisterNumber 33 BurialDate 27 Jan 1861 Forename William Relationship son of Rel1MaleForename William Rel1FemaleForename Sarah Rel1Surname CORDING Surname CORDING Age 1m Abode New St. Darlaston
Burial County Staffordshire Place Darlaston Church James Bridge Cemetery RegisterNumber 557 BurialDate 12 Nov 1863 Forename Sarah Ann Relationship wife of Rel1MaleForename William Rel1FemaleForename Rel1Surname CORDING Surname CORDING Age 24 Abode New St, Darlaston
Baptism County Staffordshire Place Darlaston Church Slater St Primitive Methodist Chapel RegisterNumber DateOfBirth BaptismDate 08 Jan 1862 Forename Mary Ann Sex F FatherForename William MotherForename Sarah Ann FatherSurname CORDEN MotherSurname Abode New St Darlaston FatherOccupation Miner
(not sure if above relating)
Baptism County Staffordshire Place Bilston Church St Leonards RegisterNumber 70684 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 15 Jan 1837 Forename William Sex M FatherForename William MotherForename Catherine FatherSurname CORDEN MotherSurname Abode Bilston FatherOccupation Miner Notes Recorded by J B OWEN
County Staffordshire Place Wolverhampton Church St Matthew RegisterNumber 10454 MarriageDate 16 Mar 1857 GroomForename William GroomSurname CORDEN GroomAge GroomParish GroomCondition Bachelor GroomOccupation Miner GroomAbode Moore Street BrideForename Sarah Kinsey BrideSurname BLAKEMORE BrideAge BrideParish BrideCondition Spinster BrideOccupation BrideAbode Moore Street GroomFatherForename William GroomFatherSurname CORDEN GroomFatherOccupation BrideFatherForename William BrideFatherSurname BLAKEMORE BrideFatherOccupation Miner WitnessOneForename Solomon WitnessOneSurname BEVAN WitnessTwoForename Sarah WitnessTwoSurname PALMER Notes Banns; Grooms age is full; Grooms father deceased; Brides age is minimum; Recorded by Benjamin WRIGHT
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2 Mar 2014 18:01 |
Possible marriage to Mary??
Name: William Cording Event Type: Marriage Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year: 1864 Registration District: West Bromwich County: Staffordshire Event Place: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Spouse Name (available after 1911): Volume: 6B Page: 1052 Line Number: 7 William Cording probably married one of the following people Name: William Bailey Name: Phoebe Guest xxxx Name: Mary Howell xxxx
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2 Mar 2014 17:51 |
Yeah Roy that was the tentative marriage for William and Elizabeth....that I referred to in OP
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2 Mar 2014 17:36 |
Marriages Mar 1879 CORDING William W. Bromwich 6b 739
Others on the page include Elizabeth Williams
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2 Mar 2014 17:26 |
?? Deaths Dec 1863 Cordin Sarah Ann Walsall 6b 323
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2 Mar 2014 17:22 |
Thanks Thelma - had only - as I was typing - thought of this and it looks good!
Jude
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