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Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me and my little girl research our family tree and find any information on the parents of Amelia SMETHURST (b oct 1913) all I know is her mothers maiden name was SHAW if that helps!


Many thanks in advance!

Welcome to the boards Belinda

You may need to purchase the birth cert to find out the parents names

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Marriages Dec 1912 (>99%)

Shaw Elizabeth Smethurst Manchester 8d 329
Smethurst Arthur Shaw Manchester 8d 329


ahhh she was born Manchester


Births Dec 1913 (>99%)

Smethurst Amelia Shaw Manchester 8d 458a


found

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

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2 children named after parents



Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Smethurst Amelia Shaw Manchester 8d 458a
Births Dec 1915 (>99%)
Smethurst Elizabeth Shaw Manchester 8d 351 xxxx
Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Smethurst Arthur H Shaw Manchester 8d 390 xxxx

SMETHURST Arthur SHAW Elizabeth Miles Platting (Collyhurst), Albert Memorial Manchester 82/6/474

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi

A tree on Ancestry has this family. Here is Elizabeth with her family in 1911 before she married Arthur Smethurst:

Address: 49 Carolina St Dwellings, Ancoats, Manchester

SHAW, William Head Married M 52 1859 Night Watchman born Lancashire
SHAW, Katherine Wife Married30 years F 47 1864 French Polisher Lancashire
SHAW, Elizabeth Ann Daughter Single F 17 1894 Card Board Box Maker Lancashire
SHAW, Samuel Son Single M 12 1899 School Lancashire
SHAW, William Henry Son Single M 22 1889 Hawker Street Lancashire

You should be able to find the marriage of William and Katherine on freebmd

On Ancestry


Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
about Arthur Smethurst
Name:
Arthur Smethurst
Birth Year:
abt 1891
Age:
21
Marriage Date:
21 Dec 1912
Parish:
Collyhurst, Albert Memorial Church
Parish as it Appears:
Manchester
Father's Name:
Arthur Henry Smethurst
Spouse's Name:
Elizabeth Shaw
Spouse's Father's Name:
John Shaw
Reference Number:
M140/1/28/6
Item Number:
4
Archive Roll:
515

Wife is shown as Elizabeth and a child for couple Amelia Smethurst, aged 12 months



British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 - 26/08/14


Name:Arthur Smethurst <<Occ: Carter

Estimated birth year:abt 1891

Age at enlistment:23

Birth Parish:Harpurhey

Birth County:Lancashire

Document Year:1914

Regimental Number:92180

Regiment Name:Royal Horse and Royal Field Artillery

Number of Images:7

Checking the censuses this looks to his birth


Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915

Name:Arthur Smethurst

Birth Date:29 Jul 1891

Age:0

Baptism Date:12 Aug 1891

Parish:Newton Heath, St Augustine

Parish as it Appears:S Augustine

Father's Name:Arthur Henry Smethurst <Labourer

Mother's name:Mary Smethurst

Reference Number:M140/4/3/1

Item Number:2

Archive Roll:828

Adeline

I would discount that tree as Elizabeths fathers name was John

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Household transcription
1891 census

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Person: SHAW, Elizabeth
Address: 127, Sanderson Street, Manchester

WILLIAMS, Alexander Head Widower M 60 1831 Tripe Dealer Late Dyer
Salford, Lancashire VIEW
SHAW, John Son In Law Married M 39 1852 Shunter On Railway
Manchester, Lancashire VIEW
SHAW, Sarah Ann Daughter Married F 39 1852
Salford, Lancashire VIEW
SHAW, Amelia Granddaughter Single F 16 1875 Working In Match Works
Manchester, Lancashire VIEW
SHAW, Alexander Grandson Single M 15 1876 Working In Chair Works
Salford, Lancashire VIEW
SHAW, Thomas Henry Grandson Single M 13 1878 Scholar
Manchester, Lancashire VIEW
SHAW, John Edwin Grandson M 9 1882 Scholar
Salford, Lancashire VIEW
SHAW, George Williams Grandson M 2 1889
Manchester, Lancashire VIEW
SHAW, Elizabeth Granddaughter F 0 (1M) 1891
Manchester, Lancashire VIEW

Looks likely as there was a sister called Amelia


Household transcription
1911 census

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Person: SHAW, Elizabeth
Address: 137 Teignmouth St Rochdale Road Manchester

SHAW, George Williams Son Single M 22 1889 Trade Wire Drawer Lanchs Manchester VIEW
SHAW, Sarah Ann Mother Widow F 59 1852 Lanchs Salford VIEW
SHAW, Elizabeth Sister Single F 20 1891 Waste Sorter Lanchs Salford VIEW
SHAW, Sarah Emma Sister Daughter Single F 17 1894 Mill Scavenger Lanchs Salford

1911 England Census about Arthur Smethurst
Name: Arthur Smethurst
Age in 1911: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 4 Husband St Collyhurst
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Labourer In Iron Works
Registration district: Manchester
Registration District Number: 466
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 24151
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Henry Smethurst 41
Mary Smethurst 39
Arthur Smethurst 19
Annie Smethurst 17
Fred Smethurst 12
Ethel Smethurst 10
Elizabeth Smethurst 8
Herbert Smethurst 7
John Smethurst 3
Florence Smethurst 1

Wow!!!!!!!!!

Was hoping to be able to reply to you all seperately but I wasnt sure how!

When these came through I remember nana millie having a sister and a brother Elisabeth and Arthur there was an ann too but wasnt sure if that was elisabeths husbands sister! Thank you so much all of you! Xxx

Its quite confusing as amelia married at least 2 or 3 times one of those husbands was named arthur smethurst (no relation) lol

1901 England Census
about John Shaw Name:John Shaw
Age:49
Estimated birth year:abt 1852
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Spouse:Sarah A Shaw Birth Place:
Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish:Manchester Albert Memorial
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Registration district:Manchester
Sub-registration district:St George

John Shaw 49
Sarah A Shaw 49
Jonathan Shaw 21 (Deaf and Dumb)
John E Shaw 19
George W Shaw 12
Elizabeth Shaw 10
Emma Shaw 7
Robert R Shaw 47 (Brother) Widower
Maria Shaw 17
Albert Shaw 7


Jonathan in 1891...

1891 England Census about Jonathan Shaw
Name:Jonathan Shaw
Age:8
Estimated birth year:abt 1883
Relation:Scholar
Gender:Male
Where born:Newton Heath, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Stretford
Ecclesiastical parish:Stretford St Matthew
Town:Flixton
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England


Registration district:Barton Upon Irwell
Sub-registration district:Stretford
ED, institution, or vessel:Manchester Schools for the Deaf and Dumb

Jonathan Shaw 8


Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
about Jonathan Shaw Name:Jonathan Shaw (Bachelor) Fettler
Birth Year:abt 1879
Age:23
Marriage Date:27 Dec 1902
Parish:Harpurhey, Christ Church
Parish as it Appears:Harpurhey
Father's Name:John Shaw (Labourer)
Spouse's Name:Edith Sangster (Spinster)
Spouse's Father's Name:William Sangster (Slipper Maker) Deceased
Witnesses: James Raley and Mary Ann Williams


Household transcription
1911 census

Person: SHAW, Jonathan
Address: 4 Shepley St Harpurhey Manchester

SHAW, Jonathan Head Married M 31 1880 Iron Dresser Manchester Lancs
(Born Deaf and Dumb)
SHAW, Edith Wife Married9 years F 30 1881 Weaver Mills Manchester Lancs
(Born Deaf and Dumb)

SHAW, Jonathan Son M 6 1905 Manchester Lancs
SHAW, Alexander Son M 5 1906 Manchester Lancs
SHAW, John Son M 3 1908 Manchester Lancs
RG number: RG14
Piece: 24220
Reference: RG14PN24220 RG78PN1390 RD467 SD3 ED7 SN215
Registration District: Prestwich
Sub District: Blackley
Enumeration District: 7
Parish: North Manchester
Address: 4 Shepley St Harpurhey Manchester
County: Lancashire

Father John's death...


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about John Shaw Name:John Shaw
Estimated birth year:abt 1855
Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1908
Age at Death:53
Registration district:Manchester
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:8d
Page:166

That's her holly! The birthdate is the same

Thank you :) x

Jolly good!

Prickles. :-)

So much info to get through I hardly know where to begin!!