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Belinda
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26 Feb 2014 14:51 |
Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me and my little girl research our family tree and find any information on the parents of Amelia SMETHURST (b oct 1913) all I know is her mothers maiden name was SHAW if that helps!
Many thanks in advance!
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26 Feb 2014 15:07 |
Welcome to the boards Belinda
You may need to purchase the birth cert to find out the parents names
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Marriages Dec 1912 (>99%) Shaw Elizabeth Smethurst Manchester 8d 329 Smethurst Arthur Shaw Manchester 8d 329
ahhh she was born Manchester
Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Smethurst Amelia Shaw Manchester 8d 458a
found
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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26 Feb 2014 15:09 |
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2 children named after parents
Births Dec 1913 (>99%) Smethurst Amelia Shaw Manchester 8d 458a Births Dec 1915 (>99%) Smethurst Elizabeth Shaw Manchester 8d 351 xxxx Births Mar 1920 (>99%) Smethurst Arthur H Shaw Manchester 8d 390 xxxx
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26 Feb 2014 15:15 |
SMETHURST Arthur SHAW Elizabeth Miles Platting (Collyhurst), Albert Memorial Manchester 82/6/474
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi
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26 Feb 2014 15:19 |
A tree on Ancestry has this family. Here is Elizabeth with her family in 1911 before she married Arthur Smethurst:
Address: 49 Carolina St Dwellings, Ancoats, Manchester
SHAW, William Head Married M 52 1859 Night Watchman born Lancashire SHAW, Katherine Wife Married30 years F 47 1864 French Polisher Lancashire SHAW, Elizabeth Ann Daughter Single F 17 1894 Card Board Box Maker Lancashire SHAW, Samuel Son Single M 12 1899 School Lancashire SHAW, William Henry Son Single M 22 1889 Hawker Street Lancashire
You should be able to find the marriage of William and Katherine on freebmd
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26 Feb 2014 15:19 |
On Ancestry
Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 about Arthur Smethurst Name: Arthur Smethurst Birth Year: abt 1891 Age: 21 Marriage Date: 21 Dec 1912 Parish: Collyhurst, Albert Memorial Church Parish as it Appears: Manchester Father's Name: Arthur Henry Smethurst Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Shaw Spouse's Father's Name: John Shaw Reference Number: M140/1/28/6 Item Number: 4 Archive Roll: 515
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26 Feb 2014 15:19 |
Wife is shown as Elizabeth and a child for couple Amelia Smethurst, aged 12 months
British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 - 26/08/14
Name:Arthur Smethurst <<Occ: Carter
Estimated birth year:abt 1891
Age at enlistment:23
Birth Parish:Harpurhey
Birth County:Lancashire
Document Year:1914
Regimental Number:92180
Regiment Name:Royal Horse and Royal Field Artillery
Number of Images:7
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26 Feb 2014 15:27 |
Checking the censuses this looks to his birth
Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915
Name:Arthur Smethurst
Birth Date:29 Jul 1891
Age:0
Baptism Date:12 Aug 1891
Parish:Newton Heath, St Augustine
Parish as it Appears:S Augustine
Father's Name:Arthur Henry Smethurst <Labourer
Mother's name:Mary Smethurst
Reference Number:M140/4/3/1
Item Number:2
Archive Roll:828
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26 Feb 2014 15:44 |
Adeline
I would discount that tree as Elizabeths fathers name was John
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26 Feb 2014 15:48 |
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Household transcription 1891 census Printer friendly version Report transcription change Search criteria used Person: SHAW, Elizabeth Address: 127, Sanderson Street, Manchester
WILLIAMS, Alexander Head Widower M 60 1831 Tripe Dealer Late Dyer Salford, Lancashire VIEW SHAW, John Son In Law Married M 39 1852 Shunter On Railway Manchester, Lancashire VIEW SHAW, Sarah Ann Daughter Married F 39 1852 Salford, Lancashire VIEW SHAW, Amelia Granddaughter Single F 16 1875 Working In Match Works Manchester, Lancashire VIEW SHAW, Alexander Grandson Single M 15 1876 Working In Chair Works Salford, Lancashire VIEW SHAW, Thomas Henry Grandson Single M 13 1878 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire VIEW SHAW, John Edwin Grandson M 9 1882 Scholar Salford, Lancashire VIEW SHAW, George Williams Grandson M 2 1889 Manchester, Lancashire VIEW SHAW, Elizabeth Granddaughter F 0 (1M) 1891 Manchester, Lancashire VIEW
Looks likely as there was a sister called Amelia
Household transcription 1911 census Printer friendly version Report transcription change Search criteria used Person: SHAW, Elizabeth Address: 137 Teignmouth St Rochdale Road Manchester
SHAW, George Williams Son Single M 22 1889 Trade Wire Drawer Lanchs Manchester VIEW SHAW, Sarah Ann Mother Widow F 59 1852 Lanchs Salford VIEW SHAW, Elizabeth Sister Single F 20 1891 Waste Sorter Lanchs Salford VIEW SHAW, Sarah Emma Sister Daughter Single F 17 1894 Mill Scavenger Lanchs Salford
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26 Feb 2014 16:29 |
1911 England Census about Arthur Smethurst Name: Arthur Smethurst Age in 1911: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1892 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 4 Husband St Collyhurst Marital Status: Single Occupation: Labourer In Iron Works Registration district: Manchester Registration District Number: 466 Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Piece: 24151 Household Members: Name Age Arthur Henry Smethurst 41 Mary Smethurst 39 Arthur Smethurst 19 Annie Smethurst 17 Fred Smethurst 12 Ethel Smethurst 10 Elizabeth Smethurst 8 Herbert Smethurst 7 John Smethurst 3 Florence Smethurst 1
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Belinda
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26 Feb 2014 16:48 |
Wow!!!!!!!!!
Was hoping to be able to reply to you all seperately but I wasnt sure how!
When these came through I remember nana millie having a sister and a brother Elisabeth and Arthur there was an ann too but wasnt sure if that was elisabeths husbands sister! Thank you so much all of you! Xxx
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Belinda
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26 Feb 2014 16:52 |
Its quite confusing as amelia married at least 2 or 3 times one of those husbands was named arthur smethurst (no relation) lol
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27 Feb 2014 10:40 |
1901 England Census about John Shaw Name:John Shaw Age:49 Estimated birth year:abt 1852 Relation to Head:Head Gender:Male Spouse:Sarah A Shaw Birth Place: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Manchester Ecclesiastical parish:Manchester Albert Memorial County/Island:Lancashire Country:England Registration district:Manchester Sub-registration district:St George
John Shaw 49 Sarah A Shaw 49 Jonathan Shaw 21 (Deaf and Dumb) John E Shaw 19 George W Shaw 12 Elizabeth Shaw 10 Emma Shaw 7 Robert R Shaw 47 (Brother) Widower Maria Shaw 17 Albert Shaw 7
Jonathan in 1891...
1891 England Census about Jonathan Shaw Name:Jonathan Shaw Age:8 Estimated birth year:abt 1883 Relation:Scholar Gender:Male Where born:Newton Heath, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Stretford Ecclesiastical parish:Stretford St Matthew Town:Flixton County/Island:Lancashire Country:England
Registration district:Barton Upon Irwell Sub-registration district:Stretford ED, institution, or vessel:Manchester Schools for the Deaf and Dumb
Jonathan Shaw 8
Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 about Jonathan Shaw Name:Jonathan Shaw (Bachelor) Fettler Birth Year:abt 1879 Age:23 Marriage Date:27 Dec 1902 Parish:Harpurhey, Christ Church Parish as it Appears:Harpurhey Father's Name:John Shaw (Labourer) Spouse's Name:Edith Sangster (Spinster) Spouse's Father's Name:William Sangster (Slipper Maker) Deceased Witnesses: James Raley and Mary Ann Williams
Household transcription 1911 census
Person: SHAW, Jonathan Address: 4 Shepley St Harpurhey Manchester SHAW, Jonathan Head Married M 31 1880 Iron Dresser Manchester Lancs (Born Deaf and Dumb) SHAW, Edith Wife Married9 years F 30 1881 Weaver Mills Manchester Lancs (Born Deaf and Dumb) SHAW, Jonathan Son M 6 1905 Manchester Lancs SHAW, Alexander Son M 5 1906 Manchester Lancs SHAW, John Son M 3 1908 Manchester Lancs RG number: RG14 Piece: 24220 Reference: RG14PN24220 RG78PN1390 RD467 SD3 ED7 SN215 Registration District: Prestwich Sub District: Blackley Enumeration District: 7 Parish: North Manchester Address: 4 Shepley St Harpurhey Manchester County: Lancashire
Father John's death...
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about John Shaw Name:John Shaw Estimated birth year:abt 1855 Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1908 Age at Death:53 Registration district:Manchester Inferred County:Lancashire Volume:8d Page:166
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27 Feb 2014 12:35 |
Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915 about Amelia Smethurst Name:Amelia Smethurst Birth Date:3 Oct 1913 Age:0 Baptism Date:15 Oct 1913 Abode: 15 Queens Place, Queens Road Parish:Newton Heath, St Augustine Parish as it Appears:St Augustine Newton Heath Father's Name:Arthur Smethurst (Carter) Mother's name:Elizabeth Smethurst Reference Number:M140/4/3/4 Item Number:5 Archive Roll:828
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Belinda
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27 Feb 2014 13:04 |
That's her holly! The birthdate is the same
Thank you :) x
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PricklyHolly
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27 Feb 2014 20:33 |
Jolly good!
Prickles. :-)
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Belinda
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27 Feb 2014 23:47 |
So much info to get through I hardly know where to begin!!
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