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Can anyone help me find the correct Robert Chadwick c 1789 who was my gt. gt.gt.grandfather born around 1789 in or around Rochdale, Lancs.
Hallfold is a clue to his whereabouts.
There are just so many of them.
He was the father of Robert Chadwick b1818 who married Mary Robinshaw in 1846 in Rochdale and Robert & Mary were then the parents of James & Robert (died young) & Ann Chadwick.
I am decended from James.
I have been searching for many years - it is such a common name.
Any help would be appreciated.
Betty G Chadwick

Posting the full details of the marriage in a bid to find the father!


Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930

Name:Robert Chadwick Weaver

Age:Full

Marriage Date:17 Aug 1846

Parish:Rochdale, St Chad

Parish as it Appears:Rochdale

Father's Name:Robert Chadwick Weaver

Spouse's Name:Mary Robinshaw

Spouse's Father's Name:James Robinshaw Labourer

Reference Number:L48/1/4/30

Item Number:2

Archive Roll:654

Wit: James Chadwick & Ann Butterworth

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Name: Robert Chadwick
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 18 Jan 1789
Christening Place: Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: John Chadwick
Mother's Name: Sarah Chadwick
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02304-1
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1537566
Reference ID: item 5

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Name: Robert Chadwick
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 19 Aug 1819
Christening Place: St. Chad's, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: Robert Chadwick
Mother's Name: Betty
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00582-5
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1342496
Reference ID: yr 1816-1820 p 70

Name: Robert Chadwick
Spouse's Name: Mary Robinshaw
Event Date: 1846
Event Place: St. Chad'S, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: Robert Chadwick
Spouse's Father's Name: James Robinshaw
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M13580-6
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1484382
Reference ID: 2:39KCVHK

forgot to say, "Welcome to the boards" :-)

Name: Sally Chadwick
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 08 Oct 1815
Christening Place: St. Chad's, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: Robert Chadwick
Mother's Name: Betty
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00776-8
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1342495
Reference ID: P240

Name: Andrew Chadwick
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 14 Jan 1817
Christening Place: Rochdale, Lancaster, England
Father's Name: Robert Chadwick
Mother's Name: Betty
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04787-0
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1545792
Reference ID: p 6 rn 45

Name: James Chadwick
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 09 Jan 1815
Christening Place: St. Chad's, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: Robert Chadwick
Mother's Name: Betty
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00776-8
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1342495
Reference ID: P170

Name: John Chadwick
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 04 Oct 1812
Christening Place: St. Chad's, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: Robert Chadwick
Mother's Name: Betty
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00776-7
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1342495
Reference ID: item 12

Name: James Chadwick
Birth Date: 1834
Birthplace:
Age: 22
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Butterworth
Spouse's Birth Date: 1835
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 21
Event Date: 18 Aug 1856
Event Place: St. Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: James Chadwick
Spouse's Father's Name: James Butterworth
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M16320-9
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1484385
Reference ID: 2:1M2TV1N

Probably Robert jnr in 1841 - address is Hall Fold, Spotland (as on the marriage cert); he is living in the same house as the Leach family:


Name:Robert Chadwick
Age:20
Estimated birth year:abt 1821
Where born:Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Rochdale
Hundred:Salford

There is a John & Betty Chadwick and several children on the next page; John is a Schoolmaster

Robert jnr's baptism?:

Baptism: 29 Feb 1819 Hallfold Chapel, Spotland, Lancashire, England
Robt. Chadwick - Son of Robt. Chadwick & Jane
Born: 22 Dec
Abode: Hallfold
Source: LDS Film 1482399
From www.lan-opc.org.uk/

So witness James Chadwick married to Ann Butterworth - witnesses at Robert's wedding was not a brother to Robert - different father

Name: Robert Chadwick
Event Type: Baptism
Christening Date: 24 Feb 1819
Christening Place: Spotland, Lancashire
Father's Name: Robert Chadwick
Mother's Name: Jane Chadwick
Affiliate Publication Number: RG4_3186

Ann, not sure about that marriage of James Chadwick and Mary Ann Butterworth - they would only have been 10 and 11 when Robert married - perhaps a little young to be witnesses.

I've confused myself now :-D

I've sent a message to poster informing her there is info on here for her

message from poster



I have been researching the Chadwicks of Rochdale for about 10 years. It does not help that they all call their children Robert, John & James (oh and Betty, my name, after my gt.grandmother) !

I have a list left by a cousin of my fathers showing several generations of Chadwicks. I checked everything and it was pretty acurate (I do not put anyone on my tree I am not sure about ).

I have Robert Chadwick Jnr & Mary Robinshaw's copy marriage cert.
which gives their fathers' as Robert Chadwick and James Robinshaw and the witness' James Chadwick & Ann Butterworth.
'Potty' says that they would only be 10 or 11 in 1846 at the time of Robert & Mary's wedding. Not so.
I believe James was his brother born 1822.
I have not checked if James & Ann Butterworoth married.

Robert Jnr 1818 disappears after the 1851 census and I cannot find a death. His wife Mary continues to put 'M' on Census forms and lives with their children James & Ann.

Robert Snr -
There are so many Robert Chadwicks born around the time to be old enough to be Robert Jnr's father.
One I am leaning towards is Robert Chadwick born c1789 married Jenny (Jane) Standring at St Chads Rochdale 2/2/1813
There are several children from this marriage but Jane/Jenny (mother) gives her name for each child differently - probably written as sounded. (Jane/Janney/Jinny/Ginney/Jennie.)
Their 1st child :-
John born 14.9.1813 (which fits with marriage date, they usually had a child within 7/9 months!)
William born 1815 died 1828
Alice born 1816
ROBERT Jnr born Dec 1818 baptised Feb 1819 (my ancestor ?)
James born 1822 (witness to Robert Jnr & Mary's marriage?-
Samuel born 1824
Ann born 1826
IF this is the correct Robert Chadwick I think he remarried in June 1828 to Ann Mills and had another son Joseph Chadwick 23/2/1829
BUT if can't find a death for his 1st wife Jane/Jennie

HOWEVER after all this I cant prove if this Robert Snr is the correct one.
There are others.
I too have looked into the Robert Jnr living with the Leach family but this age is a couple of years out and despite looking for years I cant find the connection.

Hope I have not confused you too much - I have confused myself!

Hi Gary

I wouldn't worry too much about the age difference on the 1841; ages were rounded down to the nearest 5, so that Robert could have been anything between 20 and 24.

As to Robert being the son of Robert and Jane, I am not so sure. On the later baptisms, Robert snr is shown as a (Stone) Mason but on Robert jnr's marriage cert he is a Weaver.

Thanks Potty - yes I did notice the Stonemason/Weaver difference for Robert Snr.
It is a real mystery. I shall just have to keep looking.
Betty