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Jones and Lee family

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Sandra

Sandra Report 26 Feb 2014 14:02

Thank you soooo much. You are such good people and the help is much appreciated, Kind Regards Sandy :-D

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Feb 2014 11:12

????

Name: Richard Jones
Spouse's Name: Mary Howells

Event Date: 19 Oct 1796
Event Place: Saint Leonard,Broseley,Shropshire,England

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01155-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 510657

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Feb 2014 10:54

and same for parents Richard and Mary:-

Jeremiah Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 19 March 1797 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: Richd. Jones
mother: Mary

Susannah Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 12 June 1814 England
father: Richard Brookholding Jones
mother: Mary Jones

Phoebe Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 13 June 1790 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
mother: Mary Jones

Edwd. Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 8 June 1795 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
mother: Mary Jones

Thos. Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 26 December 1802 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
mother: Mary Jones

Betty Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 17 April 1778 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
mother: Mary Jones

Richard Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 2 January 1792 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
mother: Mary Jones

Eliz. Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 27 August 1809 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
mother: Mary Jones

Maria Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 1 April 1793 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
mother: Mary Jones

Rosanna Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 1 July 1798 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
mother: Mary Jones

Emilla Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 28 September 1801 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
mother: Mary Jones

Abraham Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 13 March 1801 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
mother: Mary Jones

Ann Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 12 August 1795 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
mother: Mary Jones


My money would be on this family as names did seem to be passed on at this time and here this Jeremiah does have a sister Susannah, but that's just my theory?


NOTE:- (some of these baptisms are in the same year, but not same date, so they do look to be at least 2 differant families)

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Feb 2014 10:51

Possible children for parents John and Elizabeth:-

Margt. Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 23 April 1804 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: Jno. Jones
mother: Eliz.

Mary Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 10 March 1811 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: Jno. Jones
mother: Eliz.

Jeremiah Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 31 December 1797 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: Jno. Jones
mother: Eliz.

Job Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 9 October 1801 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: John Jones
mother: Eliz.

James Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 15 June 1794 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: John Jones
mother: Elisabeth

Richd. Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 3 April 1803 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: John Jones
mother: Elizabeth

John Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 9 August 1789 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: John Jones
mother: Elisabeth

Edward Evans Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 21 May 1786 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: John Jones
mother: Elisabeth

Maria Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 13 August 1787 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: John Jones
mother: Elisabeth

Emma Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 31 July 1804 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
mother: Eliz. Jones

Saml. Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 3 September 1809 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
mother: Eliz. Jones

Mary Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 11 January 1784 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
mother: Elisabeth Jones

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Feb 2014 10:43

Can't see any possible baptisms in Staffordshire for Jeremiah, but as 1841 census states that he was not born in the county and 1861 states Jeremiah was born Shropshire, then these could be possible baptisms for him:-

Jeremiah Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 30 December 1798 WELLINGTON,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: Thomas Jones
mother: Mary


Jeremiah Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 31 December 1797 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: Jno. Jones
mother: Eliz.


Jeremiah Jones
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 19 March 1797 SAINT LEONARD,BROSELEY,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
father: Richd. Jones
mother: Mary


1861 also states born Broseley so the last 2 would seem to be more likely!

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Feb 2014 10:42

Ages on the 1841 census are rounded down to the nearest 5 or 0 so he could have been 40 to 44 making him born 1797-1801.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 26 Feb 2014 10:15

Baptism
County Staffordshire
Place Brierley Hill
Church St Michael
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 19 Sep 1824
Forename Jeremiah
Sex F
FatherForename Jeremiah
MotherForename Elizabeth
FatherSurname JONES
MotherSurname
Abode The Delp
FatherOccupation Collier

(saw above, not sure if fitting anywhere!)

Chris :)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Feb 2014 09:58

So this is your G grandmother? Her father is Jeremiah 14 from above 1841 census.

1861 census transcription details for: 11, Dial Lane, West Bromwich
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 2028
Folio: 76
Page: 3
Reg. District: West Bromwich
Sub District: 4 West Bromwich North-East
Parish: West Bromwich
Enum. District: 4
Ecclesiastical District: St James
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 11, Dial Lane, West Bromwich
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
JONES, Jeremiah Head Married M 36 1825 Coal Miner
Sedgley, Staffordshire
JONES, Hannah Wife Married F 36 1825
Walton, Derbyshire
JONES, Jeremiah Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Coal Miner
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
JONES, Ann Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
JONES, Sussannah Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
JONES, William Son M 6 1855 Scholar
West Bromwich, Staffordshire
JONES, Thomas Son M 5 1856 Scholar
West Bromwich, Staffordshire

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Feb 2014 09:58

also for ref:-

1851 England Census about Jeremiah Jones
Name: Jeremiah Jones
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1798
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England

As 1851 and 1861 census give date of birth as 1797/8 it would seem that this is likely to be the correct date.
1841 census rounded up, or down (can never remember which) ages to the nearest 0 or 5.


Death record would seem to confirm:-

Jeremiah Jones, "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991"
Name: Jeremiah Jones
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 16 Nov 1864
Burial Place: Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
Age: 66
Birth Date: 1798
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B03707-6
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1470586
Reference ID: p145 it1156

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Feb 2014 09:49

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Jeremiah Jones
Name: Jeremiah Jones
Probate Date: 3 Jul 1865
Death Date: 10 Nov 1864
Death Place: Staffordshire, England
Registry: Lichfield

............late of Mount Pleasant in the parish of Kingswinford Miner deceased who died 10 November 1864 at Mount Pleasant aforesaid was proved at Lichfield by the oaths of Jeremiah Jones of Burnt Tree in the parish of Tipton in the county aforesaid Furnacman and Enoch Jones of Kate's Hill in the parish of Dudley in the county of Worcester Furnaceman the sons the executors.
Effects: under £20

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Feb 2014 09:39

Jeremiah's marriage?

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about Jeremiah Jones
Name: Jeremiah Jones
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1819
Marriage Place: St. Mary'S, Kingswinford, Stafford, England
Spouse: Elizabeth Toddington
FHL Film Number: 1040004
Reference ID: 730
.............................................................

For ref:-

1861 England Census about Jeremiah Jones
Name: Jeremiah Jones
Age: 64
Estimated birth year: 1797
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Brosely, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Kingswinford
Ecclesiastical parish: Quarry Bank
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Coal Miner
Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Kingswinford
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 178
Piece: 2074
Folio: 107
Page Number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
Jeremiah Jones 64 - Widow
Abigal Jones 25
Enoch Jones 21

Gee

Gee Report 26 Feb 2014 06:25

Hi Sandra

If you have found two baptism's in two different locations with different birth dates then they are most likely two different people

Is this your family?



1841 England Census

Name:Jeremiah Jones

Age:40

Estimated birth year:abt 1801

Gender:Male

Civil Parish:Kingswinford

Hundred:North Seisdon

County/Island:Staffordshire

Registration district:Stourbridge

Sub-registration district:Kingswinford

Piece996
Book:13
Folio:25
Page Number:17

Household Members:


Jeremiah Jones 40 <<Miner not born in County
Elizabeth Jones 35
William Jones 15
Jeremiah Jones 14
Mary Jones 12
George Jones 10
Sarah Jones 7
Abigall Jones 5
Enoch Jones 2


On the 1851 census, it states he was born in Kingswinford?

Sandra

Sandra Report 26 Feb 2014 06:06

Hi, I am looking for information about my Jones family.. I have got back to my Great,g,g Grandfather Jeremiah Jones 1802, who actually appears to be under two birth dates 1801 and 1797. He is shown as being born in two different areas the one I have him in is Kingswinford ,Staffordshire. I would really love to find his Parents and sibling as I think he may hold the key to a family mystery. Does anyone know off this line of the Jones family? They are very hard to trace. My Great Grandmother Sushannah Jones 1852 narried William Lee 1851 came from west bromwich and they married and settled in Audley and there children were all born there. Any information would be appreciated, kind regards Sandy :-)