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Since GR are no longer putting possible spouse matches on the Marriage Records before 1914, could someone please tell me how to find who they married?
Even the census records don´t help. Or am I being stupid?

Hi Coramewett.

Are you also using this free site to search for births, marriage and deaths...

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

You look at the census before and after marriage to determine who married whom. Not so easily done if it happens that the two females have the same first name but then you can match up the year and place of birth from the census before marriage.

This has been mentioned before

I think it is an absolute disgrace that GR have the nerve to charge people (using credits) for nothing

I wasted 10 credits testing this out when someone else complained

When GR were asked about this they said they had other projects on the go at the moment.....or something like that

Projects !!!!...... If they are offering marriage registrations...they should at least give some idea who the person married.....if not don't charge for it

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think GR or anyone else is able to say who married whom before 1912. It simply wasn't recorded. Or am I mistaken?

I do however think it's disgraceful for GR to be charging for what is free on FreeBMD. But then people are paying for it!

No of course they cannot but if you search as I did for Louisa Taylor who married in Islington in the late 1800s....that is all you get......No other names for the spouses to choose from

edit

Here is the thread where it was mentioned before

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1336828

Can you see what is wrong?

Freebmd


Marriages Sep 1881 (>99%)

BISHOP Henry Islington 1b 551 Scan available - click to view
MUNN Julianna Islington 1b 551 Scan available - click to view
Powers William Islington 1b 551 Scan available - click to view
TAYLOR Louisa Emma Islington 1b 551 Scan available - click to view


FMP

Civil registration event: MarriageView the original image
Name: TAYLOR, Louisa Emma
Registration district: [?] Islington
County: London
Year of registration: 1881
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name Not available before 1912
Volume no: [?] 1B
Page no: [?] 551
MarriageFinder™: [?] Louisa Emma Taylor married one of the following people Record
BISHOP, Henry VIEW
POWERS, William VIEW

MUNN, Julianna VIEW

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Ancestry


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Louisa Emma Taylor
Name:
Louisa Emma Taylor
Date of Registration:
Jul-Aug-Sep 1881
Registration district:
Islington
Inferred County:
London
Volume Number:
1b
Page Number:
551
records on Page:
Name
Henry Bishop
Julianna Munn
William Powers
Louisa Emma Taylor


Genes

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008


First Name LOUISA EMMA
Last Name TAYLOR
Gender Female
Year 1881
Spouse
Image Quarter 3
Country England
County London
District ISLINGTON
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 1B
Page 551
Line Number 330
Entry Number
Category Births, Marriages & Deaths
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Collections from Great Britain

Oh, I see what you mean, jax. I misunderstood! You mean that GR doesn't show the other names on the page? And they charge for it? Shame, shame, GR!!!

Maybe I am not very good at explaining :-)

Or it is somewhere else? but I couldn't find it..... it cost 5 credits to get that and wasn't going to click on anything else

Jax - can't say. I don't use GR for any records.......I tend to find possible marriages on freebmd and then play about with censuses.

Jude

Nor do I use them.....I did 4 years ago when I first joined

Of course I know how to find marriages....but it is not very helpful to anyone new to genealogy who is paying to use this site whether subscription or credits......and it is not giving the information that every other site does.

There maybe people who never use these boards so they do not get to know about the free sites (unless they google)

It does make me wonder if the GR staff use the records? or is there another way to get the list of possible spouses up which they are keeping to themselves?

Out of curiosity I searched for the marriage of Jane Boardman 1850 Wigan.
1850 Q1 Wigan Vol 21 Page 637

GR returned just her - as expected (per Jax's postings above)

Ancestry returned her plus 6 others:-
Elizabeth Banks
Mary Ann Battersby
Jane Boardman
Thomas Hill
John Holt
Mary Lyson
John Winstanley

Freebmd returned her plus 7 others:-
Atherton James
Banks Elizabeth
Battersby Mary Ann
Boardman Jane
Hill Thomas
Holt John
Lyson Mary
Winstanley John

Don't have access to FMP, but only Freebmd shows the full set?

FMP showed the 7 plus her as well

Where possible its always best to use local online BMD's rather than the GRO index regardles of which Genealogy web site you use as some give spouse and mothers maiden names before sept 1911

Example The 1850 marriage posted by Inky1 for Jane Boardman she married John Winstanley At All Saints Wigan

BOARDMAN Jane WINSTANLEY John All Saints, Wigan Wigan & Leigh C33/9/150

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Where possible i use freebmds first then if a local online BMD's is available i then cross reference them with the local site

Roy

Of course you know that and I know that PP

But that does not help a newbie to this hobby who has paid GR by sub or even worse credits and are not getting a result....not everyone uses these boards to find out these useful bits of info

Just to add the marriage I posted is also on the London marriages and banns on Ancestry.....so I wouldn't have needed to work it out....

This thread is about GR giving members what they are paying for or they will go else where.....The other people on the page used to show.....so why is it not showing now?

Jax, The fact newbies don't no that is exactly why i have added my post to this thread,

Newbies who read this thread will then learn from our input on this thread so i disagree that it does'nt help newbies

PricklyHolly, Posted the link to freebmd's which also helps anyone who reads this thread

With regard to what this thread is about?

"This thread is about GR giving members what they are paying for or they will go else where.....The other people on the page used to show.....so why is it not showing now?"

Without appearing to be pedantic

If its a suggestion about what GR should or should not do then its a "suggestion" which should be posted on the relevant board

Roy

Cora

Why are you using GR to look for such old BMD info?

Do what we do.......use freebmd

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Just to add to my last post, The OP stated

"Since GR are no longer putting possible spouse matches on the Marriage Records before 1914, could someone please tell me how to find who they married?
Even the census records don´t help. Or am I being stupid? "

I took that to mean Help was being asked for,

Help to on how to match spouses so my post was relevant to what the OP was asking

Roy

Yes it maybe helpful for people who look in......many do not and could be members for many years before finding the boards.

When I joined in 2010....did I know about freebmd? No... I found out a few months later, even then I was confused as we didn't have the links we have now and I didn't know how to copy and paste.

I have given a link to another thread where this subject has come up before....GR have been asked where the possible spouse have gone......they came back with some rubbish about a project

They have ripped me off for 10 credits just testing this (not that I care need to get rid) but how many others have paid and not got anything?

Thank you everyone for your response. I haven't figured out how to reply individually.
But I have taken all your advice on board and comments. Summing it all up it seems that GR are a waste of time and money. As Margee said "shame, shame GR".
Why are we paying them when we have to do our research on another site?

And what is the point of a Keepsafe? It certainly is far from safe. GR can change or entirely loose the Documents we had searched for and thought saved!!!!

Also recently on my Time Lines I keep seeing the messages, search for birth record etc.,
These records are in the Keepsafe relating to that person, so what are they talking about?
I am so glad others are having problems, I thought it was just me, loosing the plot!!!