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Ernest - can you come back with some feedback please - use the "reply" box as I have just done :-)
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And here is Samuel.
1891 census transcription details for: Peckons Hill, Donhead St Mary
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 1624
Folio: 57
Page: 17
Reg. District: Tisbury
Sub District: Donhead
Parish: Donhead St Mary
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: Donhead St Mary
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Peckons Hill, Donhead St Mary
County: Wiltshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
ROBERTS, William Head Married M 58 1833 Farm Servant
Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Priscilla Wife Married F 53 1838
Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
ROBERTS, George Son Single M 21 1870 Farm Servant
Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Thomas Son M 13 1878 Scholar
Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
>>ROBERTS, Samuel Son M 6 1885 Scholar
Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
1901 census transcription details for: Mullens Mill, Donhead St Mary
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 1960
Folio: 44
Page: 17
Reg. District: Tisbury
Sub District: Donhead
Parish: Donhead St Mary
Enum. District: 4
Ecclesiastical District: Donhead St Mary Charlton St John
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Mullens Mill, Donhead St Mary
County: Wiltshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
ROBERTS, William Head Married M 68 1833 Ordinary Agricultural Labourer
Donhead St May, Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Priscilla Wife Married F 63 1838
Donhead St May, Wiltshire
>>ROBERTS, Samuel Son Single M 16 1885 Gardener Domestic
Donhead St May, Wiltshire
HOSKINS, William Boarder Single M 68 1833 Ordinary Agricultural Labourer
Donhead St May, Wiltshire
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Probably the niece in 1911. Her birth registration is for Irene Alice.
1901 census transcription details for: Donhead Street Pound Lane, Donhead St Mary
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 1960
Folio: 56
Page: 1
Reg. District: Tisbury
Sub District: Donhead
Parish: Donhead St Mary
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District: Donhead St Mary Charlton St John
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Donhead Street Pound Lane, Donhead St Mary
County: Wiltshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
ROBERTS, Albert J Head Married M 33 1868 Cowman On Farm
Donhead St Andrew, Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Harriett B Wife Married F 33 1868
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ROBERTS, William J Son M 9 1892
Sedghill, Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Albert V Son M 7 1894
Zeals, Wiltshire
>>ROBERTS, Irene A Daughter F 4 1897
Donhead St Mary
BACON, George Boarder Single M 17 1884 Farm Labourer
Donhead St Mary
1891 census transcription details for: Wolverton Lane, Mere, Zeals Tything
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 1627
Folio: 131
Page: 3
Reg. District: Mere
Sub District: Mere
Parish: Mere
Enum. District: 12
Ecclesiastical District: Zeals St Martins
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Wolverton Lane, Mere, Zeals Tything
County: Wiltshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
ROBERTS, Albert J Head Married M 23 1868 Water Cress Cutter
Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Harriet B Wife Married F 23 1868
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1881 census transcription details for: Five Ways, Donhead St Mary
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 2076
Folio: 53
Page: 14
Reg. District: Tisbury
Sub District: Donhead
Parish: Donhead St Mary
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Five Ways, Donhead St Mary
County: Wiltshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
ROBERTS, William Head Married M 48 1833 Ag Labourer
Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Priscilla Wife Married F 44 1837
Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
ROBERTS, James Son Single M 23 1858 Blacksmith
Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Henry Son Single M 19 1862 Carter
Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
>>ROBERTS, John Son Single M 14 1867 Ag Lab
Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
ROBERTS, George Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar
Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Edwin Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Charles Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar
Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Anne Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Tom Son Single M 3 1878
Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Kate Daughter Single F 2 1879
Donhead St Mary, Wiltshire
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1871 census transcription details for: Fiveways, Donhead St Mary
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 1961
Folio: 59
Page: 15
Reg. District: Tisbury
Sub District: Donhead
Parish: Donhead St Mary
Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Fiveways, Donhead St Mary
County: Wiltshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
ROBERTS, William Head M 38 1833 Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Priscilla Wife F 34 1837 Wiltshire
ROBERTS, James Son M 13 1858 Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Louisa Daughter F 11 1860 Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Henry Son M 9 1862 Wiltshire
>>ROBERTS, John Son M 3 1868 Wiltshire
ROBERTS, George Son M 1 1870 Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Anna Mother F 62 1809 Wiltshire
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Can find Samuel on 1901 census but age is out - parents of William and Priscilla.
Do need some feedback on this
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Fits with GB's 1911.
Civil Registration event: Birth
Name: SHORT, Lucy Ellen
Registration district: Barnstaple
County: Devon
Year of registration: 1882
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 5B
Page no: 482
1891 census transcription details for: 13, Richmond Street, Barnstaple
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 1773
Folio: 113
Page: 9
Reg. District: Barnstaple
Sub District: Barnstaple
Parish: Barnstaple
Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District: St Mary Magdalene
City/Municipal Borough: Barnstaple
Address: 13, Richmond Street, Barnstaple
County: Devonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
SHORT, John Head Married M 35 1856 Cabinet Maker
Littleham, Devonshire
SHORT, Lucy Ann Wife Married F 34 1857
Ilfracombe, Devonshire
SHORT, John Son Single M 14 1877 Cabinet Makers Apprentice
Bristol, Gloucestershire
SHORT, William Henny Son Single M 13 1878 Errand Boy Confectioner
Barnstaple, Devonshire
SHORT, Albert Charles Son M 11 1880 Scholar
Barnstaple, Devonshire
>>SHORT, Lucy Helen Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
Barnstaple, Devonshire
SHORT, James Gilbert Son M 6 1885 Scholar
Barnstaple, Devonshire
SHORT, Ada Gwendoline Daughter F 0 (2M) 1891
Barnstaple, Devonshire
1901 census transcription details for: Richmond Street, Barnstaple
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 2143
Folio: 123
Page: 26
Reg. District: Barnstaple
Sub District: Barnstaple
Parish: Barnstaple
Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District: Barnstaple St Mary Magdalene
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Richmond Street, Barnstaple
County: Devonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
SHORT, John Head Married M 45 1856 Cabinet Maker
Littleham Bideford, Devonshire
SHORT, Lucy A Wife Married F 44 1857
Ilfracombe, Devonshire
>>SHORT, Lucy H Daughter Single F 19 1882 Manageress Domestic Bazaar
Barnstaple, Devonshire
SHORT, James G Son Single M 16 1885 Apprentice Cabinet Maker
Barnstaple, Devonshire
SHORT, Ada G Daughter Single F 11 1890
Barnstaple, Devonshire
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I've asked Ernie to return
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We need some feedback from Ernie - if Lucy Helen was his gran then did she remarry and, if so, what was her marital status?
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The birth for Lucy is registered as Lucy Ellen Short in 1882
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1911 ?
Name: Lucy Helen Roberts
Age in 1911: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Barmstaple, Devon
Civil Parish: Gillingham County/Island: Kent Country: England
Street address: 11 Rock Avenue, Gillingham, Kent
Marital Status: Married Years Married: 1 Estimated Marriage Year: 1910 Occupation: Confectionary & Tobacco Retailer
Registration district: Medway Registration District Number: 47
Sub-registration district: Gillingham ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Household schedule number: 347 Piece: 3950 Household Members:
Name Age
Lucy Helen Roberts 28
Alice Irene Roberts 14 - niece born Donhead, Wiltshire
Did Lucy die in Australia
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Name: Lucy Helen Short
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1910
Registration District: Sevenoaks
County: Kent
Event Place: Sevenoaks, Kent, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911):
Volume: 2A
Page: 1224
Line Number: 46
Lucy Helen Short probably married one of the following people
Name: Alfred Page
Name: Samuel Roberts
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Have you found them on the 1911 census?
What was his occupation on the marriage certificate?
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Samuel Roberts was born 8/10/1884 in Tisbury Donhead Wiltshire he married my gran Lucy Helen Short on the 19/03/1910 at Sevenoaks Kent At the time of this marriage Samuel was RSPCA Inspector. I am trying to find his date of death and if there were any offspring from this marriage.
I have looked into all the various people that deal with genelogy but to no avail, is there anyone out there who can help me. My gran married again on 22/11/1919 to G W Smith at Devonport Plymouth Devon. There was 1 daughter from this marriage, Gran died at Romford Essex on the 24/1/1964.
Ernie Rock :-)
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