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Michael

Michael Report 14 Feb 2014 08:56

Trying to trace John S Davies. parents lived in Sudbury, Harrow. After his fathers death cannot locate either him or his mother Liliy Davies(nee Stoneman).

Any help appreciated

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 14 Feb 2014 09:03

A date may help with your query

When and where did you last find them together

Roy

Dea

Dea Report 14 Feb 2014 09:36

Might this be the parents marriage ?

Marriages Sep 1927 (>99%)
Davies James F Stoneham Swansea 11a 2191
Stoneham Lilian A Davies Swansea 11a 2191

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 14 Feb 2014 09:39

John's birth was registered in Fulham in 1929

Dea x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2014 09:40

WHEN did the father die?

Have you looked for a re-marriage for the mother?

Where have you looked for any info?

How do you expect people to help when you don't give date info?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2014 09:41

Marriages Dec 1935 (>99%)

Davies Jack W Stoneman Hammersmith 1a 711
Stoneman Lily Davies Hammersmith 1a 711

Dea

Dea Report 14 Feb 2014 09:48

'Possible' for Lilian on 1911 ?

Deleted as wrong name - search had done a 'variants'. ;-)

Thank you Reggie,

Dea x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2014 09:51

The woman's maiden name was Stoneman - see the marriage, and the child's birth

EDIT

No probs, Dea...............

I avoid variants until I'm 'stuck'.....lol!

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Feb 2014 10:31


When did his parents marry ?

When did his dad die ?

What was his dads name as there are more than one Lily/ Lilian Stonemen

Dea

Dea Report 14 Feb 2014 11:14

Michael has a somewhat confusing tree on Ancestry where he links the birth of John Stoneham Davies in 1929 to the marriage of Lily and John/Jack in 1935.

BUT he also has John/Jack with another wife Doris Witney at what seems to be the same sort of time and he also has this Doris married to a Stanley James Northover :-S :-S

We really do need him to come back with more info before we can get anywhere with this.

Dea x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2014 13:05

It would seem that Jack was actually married to Doris when he fathered the child with Lily in 1929.................

Marriages Sep 1918 (>99%)
Davies Jack W Witney Kensington 1a 357
WITNEY Doris Davies Kensington 1a 357

Then they divorced, presumably, and both re-married

Marriages Dec 1936 (>99%)
Davies Doris Northover Kensington 1a 526
Northover Stanley J Davies Kensington 1a 526
Northover Stanley J Witney Kensington 1a 526 S
Witney Doris Northover Kensington 1a 526


Jack's marriage to Lily already posted

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2014 13:14

At least two - and probably five - children of the Davies/Witney marriage on freebmd

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Feb 2014 14:56

This gives his birth year which may help

Name: Jack William Davies
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Age: 26
Spouse Name: Doris Witney
Spouse Age: 18
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Aug 1918
Parish: Notting Hill St Clement
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: John Davies dec occ clerk in holy orders
Spouse Father: Francis Witney
Register Type: Parish Register

Jack occ sgt C .A.P.C

Address for both 58 Bramley Road Notting Hill

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Feb 2014 15:08

Not seeing a Jack W Davies death

Is this him

Name: Jack Davies
Birth Date: abt 1891
Date of Registration: Mar 1955
Age at Death: 64
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 543

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2014 15:09

Not registered as Jack when he was born - unless he was not born in England/Wales

1911 census

Address: 58 Bramley Road W

507 WITNEY, Frank Head M 70 1841 London VIEW
507 WITNEY, Alice Wife Wife F 45 1866 Greengrocer Hemel Hempstead Bucks VIEW
507 WITNEY, Frances Son M 14 1897 Kensington VIEW
507 WITNEY, Alice Daughter F 12 1899 Kensington VIEW
507 WITNEY, Doris Daughter F 10 1901 Kensington VIEW
507 WITNEY, Rose Daughter F 7 1904 Kensington VIEW
507 WITNEY, Daisy Daughter F 7 1904 Kensington

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2014 15:10

Leaving this now, until Michael comes back with some answers................

Mary

Mary Report 14 Feb 2014 15:25

I think he was born 1889.
John Davies senior 1825 Newport wales died 3/6/1888 buried Anfield Cemetery 7/6/1888 he was a Baptist Minister of 30,Saint Albans Road,he is on 1881 census with wife Elizabeth born 1814.His occupation then given as Minister Welsh Baptist.

John Davies married Mary George in West Derby 1885 8b 914.
they had Harriet J Davies 1886?

1891/1901/1911 Mary Davies, Harriet J and John William are in Beaumaris Wales.

1915 John William Davies is in Calgary Canada enlisting in the Canadian Army.
His mums address given as 79,Wellington Avenue Liverpool, his previous address was in Beaumaris Wales occupation given as Bookeeper.

on his marriage to Doris Witney in 1918 states he is a Sargeant in CAPC?

Lily nee Stoneman's death??
Born 16/10/1897 died march 1992 Colchester Essex V9 P2417

Record of School Admissions
Lily Stoneman birth 20/10/1897 daughter of Albert Stoneman

Maryb.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Feb 2014 15:49

Just popped back to see if Michael had returned.........................and

...........can I point out -again - that Lily's maiden name was StoneMAN

Births Dec 1897 (>99%)
Stoneman Lily Kensington 1a 126

Births Dec 1901 (>99%)
Stoneman Lily Wandsworth 1d 564

Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Stoneman Lily Hackney Southwark 1d 94

Dea

Dea Report 14 Feb 2014 16:49

I think this is meant to be the one ??

Deaths Sep 1954
Davies John W 66 Harrow 5f 282

Dea Xxx

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 15 Feb 2014 11:21

Hello Michael and welcome to the Community Boards.




Note: I will let Michael know that he has replies to his query :-)