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Hi can anyone find the baptism of a JOHN KELLY parents William Henry Kelly & Annie O'Brien c 1883-1884 Liverpool, I need his birth date to cross match with a guy on the Merchant Seaman's records.

Cheers Everyone Colette x

Not seeing a baptism on Ancestry

Here's his marriage



Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921



Name:John Kelly <<Labourer

Birth Year:abt 1881

Age:21

Marriage Date:29 Dec 1902

Parish:Liverpool, St Nicholas

Spouse's Name:Annie Birmingham

Father's Name:William Kelly

Spouse Father's Name:Thomas Birmingham

Reference Number:
283 NIC/3/107

Birth date and baptism date are unlikely to be the same

Why not buy a copy of his birth cert?

How did you find out the mother's maiden name?

Is this the family?

1891 census

Person: KELLY, John Address: 22, Slade Street, Liverpool


KELLY, William Head Married M 29 1862 Marine Fireman
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
KELLY, Ann Wife Married F 27 1864
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
KELLY, John Son M 7 1884 Scholar
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
KELLY, Maria Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar
Liverpool, Lancashire

If this marriage relates to the couple on the census, it was a close call



Marriages Mar 1884 (>99%)
Copeland Ellen Liverpool 8b 209
CREA George Liverpool 8b 209
KELLY William Liverpool 8b 209
O'Brien Annie Liverpool 8b 209

No mention of 'Henry' in the man's name................

Sister Maria's baptism. Mother's ms O'Brien:


Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906 about Maria Kelly
Name: Maria Kelly
Birth Date: 10 Feb 1886
Baptism Date: 22 Feb 1886
Parish: St Anthony's, Lancashire
Father's Name: Guilielmi Kelly
Mother's Name: Annae Kelly

1884 Marriage
KELLY William - O'BRIEN Annie .
Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool .

Maybe John was born before parents married in which case he may be registered as O'Brien... just a thought

A good thought, Mike.

No father's name given:


Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906 about Joannes O'Brien
Name: Joannes O'Brien
Birth Date: 18 Dec 1883
Baptism Date: 3 Jan 1884
Parish: St Sylvester (Sylvestri), Lancashire
Mother's Name: Annae Obrien

1911 states 5 children born, 2 died

William Henry Kelly 50
Amme Kelly 47 ( Annie on original)
Jom Kelly 26 - married son ( John on original )
Miria Kelly 24 - married daughter ( but name still down as Kelly ??)
Maggan Kelly 16 - single daughter

Well I did not check for a baptism before marriage so good spot

Possible others???

Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906 about Gulielmus Kelly
Name: Gulielmus Kelly
Birth Date: 12 Mar 1898
Baptism Date: 19 Mar 1898
Parish: St Sylvester (Sylvestri), Lancashire
Father's Name: Gulielmi Kelly
Mother's Name: Anna Obrien


Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906 about Margarita Anna Kelly
Name: Margarita Anna Kelly
Birth Date: 28 Sep 1894
Baptism Date: 8 Oct 1894
Parish: St Sylvester (Sylvestri), Lancashire
Father's Name: Gulielmi Kelly
Mother's Name: Annae O'brien

If you look at that 1911 census William's wife is deceased - but has still been transcribed in error - she's crossed out. Looks like he listed his 3 living children - I doubt the married ones were actually still at home.

???

Deaths Dec 1902 (>99%)
Kelly Ann 38 Liverpool 8b 100

Now that we've found John's birth date, which is what Colette asked for, I suspect we're just amusing ourselves with all this other info!

Is that the case, Colette?

Thank you all I had a feeling he may have been born before they wed as all the other kids were baptised so thought it odd.

Thanks Colette