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I am looking for details of an Edmund Woodward who married Elizabeth Johnson on 20th February 1846 in Daventry. I believe they had two children, Emma born 10 August 1846 and Jane born 24 February 1849. Jane died on the 7th July 1846 and Mum (Elizabeth) died 15 June 1849 aged 23. I have Certificates of all these dates.

In the 1851 census Emma is living with her Uncle Henry (Woodward) and Aunty Susannah, also Uncle Charles. Both Uncles were born in Oxfordshire.

I cannot find details of when/where Edmund was born or died or if they had any further children.

It would be great if someone is able to help me with this.

Rose

Who was Edmund's father?

How old was Edmund when he married?

What was his address at the time?

What age is Edmund from the marriage certificate, and father and occupation?

Thank-you

Just putting that 1851 census for reference:
1851 England Census
Henry Woodward Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Susannah Woodward
Gender: Male Where born: Neithrop, Oxfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Daventry County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration District: Daventry Sub-registration District: Weedon
ED, institution, or vessel: 9e Household Schedule Number: 98 Piece: 1741 Folio: 491 Page Number: 30
Henry Woodward 23 boot and shoemaker journeyman
Susannah Woodward 22
Charles Woodward 20
Emma Woodward 4
Ephraim Packer 29
Meles Houghton 37
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1741; Folio: 491; Page: 30; GSU roll: 87696.

This looks probable

Did you look for him?

1851 census


Person: WOODWARD, Edmund Address: St Peters Street, St Peter, Northampton

ROBERTSON, James Head Married M 55 1796 Tailor & Grocer
Scotland VIEW
ROBERTSON, Sarah Wife Married F 51 1800 Laundress
New Romney, Kent VIEW
ROBERTSON, Charles Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Shoe Maker
Northampton, Northamptonshire VIEW
NEWART, Alexander Lodger Married M 51 1800 Tailor
Scotland VIEW
WOODWARD, Edmund Lodger Widower M 28 1823 Shoemaker
Banbury, Oxfordshire VIEW
BAKER, William Lodger Unmarried M 22 1829 Shoemaker
Daventry, Northamptonshire

Can you check your dates please Rose?

You say :

Jane born 24 February 1849. Jane died on the 7th July 1846

I am a little confused here.

Dea x

IF his father was named on cert as Thomas.........possible baptism on the IGI.......plus possible siblings

Obviously just a slip of the finger with the death date..............

Deaths Sep 1849 (>99%)
Woodward Jane Daventry 15 149

...............but it does illustrate the importance of reading a post before clicking 'submit'

Thanks everyone

Edmund's father was Thomas Woodward and profession looks like Brewer. Full age on Marriage Certificate!! His residence at the time of marriage is Daventry.

Yes, I did have the date of Jane's death wrong, sorry, should be 7 July 1849.

That looks very likely in the 1851 census.

Thanks
Rose

So what was EDMUND's occupation??????

Sorry Reggie, it was Shoemaker

Yes Reggie - I believe his parents were Thomas and Mary as all 3 children's baptisms are on Family Search site.

Dea x

For ref:



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name:Edmund Woodward

Gender:Male

Baptism Date:6 Jan 1821

Baptism Place:Banbury,Oxford,England

Father:
Thomas Woodward

Mother:
Mary

FHL Film Number:95208, 95209, 95210



Possible marriage for his parents




England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973


Name:Thomas Woodward

Gender:Male

Marriage Date:2 Oct 1806

Marriage Place:Banbury,Oxford,England

Spouse:
Mary Busby

FHL Film Number:
0990430 IT 2, 1696464 IT 4-5

'IF' this is the correct baptism for Charles, then at the time of his birth Thomas was a Tailor. ???

Charles Woodward

England and Wales, Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8)

christening: 6 April 1829 Banbury, Oxfordshire

father: Thomas Woodward
mother: Mary Woodward



: Charles Woodward
Birth Date: 4 Apr 1829
Gender: Male
Event Type: Baptism
Father: Thomas Woodward - Tailor, Neirthrop
Mother: Mary
Baptism Date: 6 Apr 1829
Baptism Place: Eanbury, Oxfordshire, England (BANBURY on original image)
Denomination: Independent
Piece Title: Piece 1593: Eanbury, Church Lane (Independent), 1812-1837

Dea x

Thanks everyone for your help, it is very much appreciated.

That does look like the birth of Edmund and his parents marriage, Gins, and Charles' birth and baptism, Dea, thanks.

As it is now after midnight here in New Zealand I'm off to bed!!

Take Care
Rose

I am not convinced about that marriage as the children we have found seem to have been born between 1821 and 1829 - I just feel that the marriage in 1806 is a little too early??

Dea x

There are a few trees on Ancestry whish agree with that marriage to Mary Busby but none of them have any source info to prove it correct. - indeed one of the trees has Thomas also marrying a Sarah Woodward in 1809 and producing chilrden with both wives at the same time ??

I beleve the trees are copied from each other and that they have mixed together two families, each with the father Thomas.

This is often the case with Ancestry trees I am afraid.

That still 'could' be the correct marriage though but we really need some proof !

Dea x

1841
WILCOX, Esther F 45 1796 Northamptonshire (Shoe Liner)
WOODWARE, Edward M 20 1821 (Shoe M) (Not Born County)
Piece: 814
Book/Folio: 19/8
Page: 10
Registration District: Northampton
Civil Parish: St Sepulchre
Municipal Borough: Northampton
Address: Todd's Lane, St Sepulchre, Northampton

1841
LIQUORISH, Jno M 15 1826 Northamptonshire (Shoemaker)
Piece: 814
Book/Folio: 12/29
Page: 10
Registration District: Northampton
Civil Parish: St Sepulchre
Municipal Borough: Northampton
Address: Crispin Street, St Sepulchre, Northampton
County: Northamptonshire


Name:Edmund Woodward
Age:17
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1822
Date of Trial:4 Mar 1839
Trial Year:1839
Location of Trial:
Northamptonshire, England
Sentence:Imprisonment (6 Months)


Northampton Mercury
Publication date:Saturday 09 March 1839

NORTHAMPTON BOROUGH SESSIONS.

Edmund Woodward 17, John Liquorish 16 indicted for stealing 2 pieces of leather called out soling, property of Wm. Collier, shoe manufacturer, value £20.
The prosecutor recommended both prisoners to mercy. Imprisoned six months each, hard labour, one fortnight solitary.

Chris :)