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My Great Grandad Thomas Phillips born 1871

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Andrew

Andrew Report 8 Feb 2014 21:44

Hi again, Thomas Phillips was born in 1871 at Great Barton Suffolk. His parents were Thomas and Ellen Phillips. In 1881 England Census Thomas was 9 but in 1891 Census he had disappeared. Did Thomas get married in 1890 and what was the County. Thomas died in 1936 in Suffolk. I will wait for your reply Andrew.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Feb 2014 21:54

Who was the informant on the death cert ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Feb 2014 21:55

:-S

Surely if he was your great grandad then you must know if he married or not ?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Feb 2014 22:02

1881 census says born Rougham, Suffolk:

1881 England Census
about Thomas Phillips Name: Thomas Phillips
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Thomas Phillips
Mother: Ellen L. Phillips
Gender: Male
Where born: Rougham, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Great Barton
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Occupation: Scholar

Registration District: Thingoe
Sub-registration District: Ixworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1841
Folio: 9
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Phillips 35
Ellen L. Phillips 31
Thomas Phillips 9
Edward Phillips 8
Harry Phillips 5
John Norman 66

On the original John Norman does not belong to the family.



GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Feb 2014 22:03

1881 gives place of birth as Rougham - Civil Parish is Great Barton

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Feb 2014 22:09

Possible?

Marriages Jun 1887 (>99%)
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Brown John Albert Risbridge 4a 773
Freestone Elizabeth Risbridge 4a 773
Phillips Thomas Risbridge 4a 773
WATSON Mary Risbridge 4a 773

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Feb 2014 22:14

Which child of Thomas is your direct relative ?

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 8 Feb 2014 22:14

not sure about this one
prisons Transcription
•First Name: Thomas
•Last Name: Phillips
•Suffix: -
•Year: 1889
•Session Commencing Month: Oct
•Session Commencing Day: 16
•Age: 17
•Year Of Birth: 1872
•Place of Birth Town: -
•Place of Birth County: -
•Occupation: Labourer
•Place: Monmouthshire
•Court: Sessions House Usk
•Title Information: A Calendar Of Prisoners Tried At The General Quarter Sessions Of The Peace - Michaelmas
•Series: HO140
•Piece Number: 115
•Folio No: -
•Page No: 6

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Feb 2014 22:23

How have you worked back to this particular Thomas Phillips ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Feb 2014 22:30

Why do you think he might have married in 1890 ?

Need feedback

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 8 Feb 2014 22:35

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1334948

(relating above)

Chris :)

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Feb 2014 22:43

So how can Edward and Thomas be his great grandad ??

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Feb 2014 07:45

Think we will have to wait for reply on that one GB!.

Not sure if Andrew has checked 'Search all Members Trees' (top right of page, under 'Search') as these names are shared.

Chris :)

(looking at above posting from Sylvia)

Crime, Prisons & Punishment 1770-1934 (Find My Past)

First name: Thomas
Last name: Phillips
Age: 17
Year of birth: 1872
Occupation: Labourer
Date the court session started: 16 Oct 1889
Court: Sessions House Usk
Area of court: Monmouthshire
Victims: William Kelly
Record source: A Calendar Of Prisoners Tried At The General Quarter Sessions Of The Peace - Michaelmas
The National Archives reference: HO140/115

Western Daily Press
Publication date:Saturday 27 July 1889

Newport
Joseph Morris and Thomas Phillips, young men, were charged with stealing about £6 7s from the pockets of William Kelly, a labourer. Prisoners were apprehended in a house Alfred St. Paul's, Bristol. They were committed for trial to the quarter session.

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 (Ancestry)

Thomas Phillips
Date of Trial:16 Oct 1889
Trial Year:1889
Location of Trial:Monmouthshire, England
Sentence:Imprisonment (Larceny. 2 Calendar Months)