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I was recently informed by a cousin of mine that we had a great uncle Jim, from census records I found a John J Hughes and I believe that this is whom my cousin is referring to. Apparently he moved from London to the Derbyshire area, he was born in Tottenham/Edmonton area circa 1888. After going through some items that my grandmother had left me many years ago I have come across a medal/badge from the "Derby Private Fire Brigade Association" and inscribed on the reverse side is "LEY'S 1920 J HUGHES. If anyone can help with some history of the fire brigade I might be able to trace his family, my cousin beleved that he had a son and a daughter but that is all we know.
Adrian Hughes
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Have you tried googling for info?
A great uncle is a brother of one of your grandparents........so which one?
If you have found the family together on a census, you should be able to trace the man...............
............use freebmd to look for info...............
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Is this the one you refer to?
1901 census
Person: HUGHES, John J Address: 31, Netherton Road, Tottenham
HUGHES, Henry Head Married M 51 1850 Bricklayer's Labourer
St Lukes, London VIEW
HUGHES, Elizabeth Wife Married F 41 1860
N K, Derbyshire VIEW
HUGHES, John J Son M 13 1888
Tottenham, Middlesex VIEW
HUGHES, George H Son M 7 1894
Tottenham, London
What second forename is recorded on his birth registration?
Note the mother's birthpace
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Fire-fighting father Edgar was chief of joint brigade | Derby ...
bygonesderby.wordpress.com/.../10/05/fire...of-joint-brigade Cached
... fire brigades undertook training with the borough brigade at the Jury Street headquarters, through the Derby Private Fire Brigade Association. ...
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This could be relevant to 1901 census:-
HUGHES, William Head Single M 21 1890 Porter Cabinet Works Wood Green Mdsx VIEW
HUGHES, George Brother Single M 17 1894 Porter Cabinet Works Tottenham Mdsx VIEW
HUGHES, Elizabeth Mother Widow F 52 1859 Charing Derbyshire Derby VIEW
( married 25 yrs. - 5 children, 3 living and 2 died )
RG number: RG14 Piece: 7298 Reference: RG14PN7298 RG78PN355 RD132 SD3 ED21 SN387 Registration District: Edmonton Sub District: West Tottenham Enumeration District: 21 Parish: Tottenham Address: 20 Osman Road S Tottenham County: Middlesex
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Hello Adrian and welcome to the Community boards.
Have you looked to see if any members on here have him in their family tree?
Click on Search above and then on Search All Members Trees and fill in your uncle's details. If you find any connections, you can contact the tree owner for further details.
I will let Adrian know that he has replies to his query. :-)
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Thank you for the responses,
the 1901 and the 1911 census records are the correct family, there is the gap in the 1901 census as William was not present but I have failed to find his whereabouts for the time. 1911 John was the oldest child and had moved out of the family home but still trying to locate, I have found a census of a John J married to Rose E in 1911 and now trying to research this.
I have come across the news article for the Derby Private FB but this is the only information uncovered so far. I will contact the Fire Brigade Association and see what help they can offer
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1911
HUGHES, John J Head Married M 23 1888 Printer's Labr Walworth
HUGHES, Rose E Wife Married1 years F 21 1890 Southwark
HUGHES, Rose E Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Southwark
RG number: RG14
Piece: 1782
Reference: RG14PN1782 RG78PN63 RD23 SD3 ED10 SN520
Registration District: Southwark
Sub District: St George the Martyr West
Enumeration District: 10
Parish: Southwark St George the Martyr
Address: 66 Gray St Waterloo Road
County: London
Marriages Sep 1910 (>99%)
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Barnard Rose E Southwark 1d 182
Hughes John J Southwark 1d 182
(is this who you found?)
Chris :)
Name:John James Hughes (Bachelor. Printer)
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1887 Age:23
Spouse Name:Rose Emma Barnard Age:21
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:31 Jul 1910
Parish:Walworth St Mark
Borough:Southwark
Father Name:Thomas Hughes (Carman)
Spouse Father:George James Barnard (Carman)
(wits. George Barnard, Daisy Victoria Hughes)
Births Sep 1887 (>99%)
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HUGHES John James St.Saviour 1d 100
(Baptism, John James Hughes 11 Sep 1887 Thomas Hughes (Carman),
Sarah Ann Hughes Walworth St John the Evangelist Southwark)
Births Mar 1888 (>99%)
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Hughes James Edmonton 3a 373
(wondering about above?, right area) (edits, but could well be below!)
1891
HUGHES, Thomas Head Married M 42 1849 Watch Hole Maker
Clerkenwell, London
HUGHES, Bridget Wife Married F 32 1859
Clerkenwell, London
HUGHES, Rose E Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Clerkenwell, London
HUGHES, Thomas H Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Clerkenwell, London
HUGHES, Edward Son M 5 1886 Scholar
Clerkenwell, London
HUGHES, Flora Daughter F 4 1887 Scholar
Clerkenwell, London
HUGHES, James Son M 3 1888
New Southgate, Middlesex
HUGHES, William Son M 2 1889
New Southgate, Middlesex
HUGHES, Elizabeth Daughter F 0 (11M) 1891
New Southgate, Middlesex
Piece: 1084
Folio: 92
Page: 11
Registration District: Edmonton
Civil Parish: Edmonton
Municipal Borough:
Address: 32, Palmers Green Road, Edmonton, New Southgate
County: Middlesex
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Hi Chris,
thank you for you information, John J of Walworth is not the correct Hughes, in the 1901 census Netherton Road Tottenham is correct with Henry (father) Elizabeth (mother) and younger brother George, also Catherines reply (should read 1911 census) is also correct but John J being the eldest brother is living elsewhere.
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