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Shackles from West Brom

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Marie

Marie Report 30 Jan 2014 13:02

I have a Rose Shackles born 1913 in Aston Birmingham. I have found a birth for Ivy Shackles and Male Shackles who where born in west Brom but both died.
All three have the maiden name WILKES

I cant find any marriage for Wilkes/Shackles....This is then preventing me to get on the cenus rollercoaster ?

Any help, pointers or information is greatly recieved

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 30 Jan 2014 13:11

Rose's birth is registered under name Shackels not Shackles.

Marie

Marie Report 30 Jan 2014 13:18

Yes I got that...which is how I now they moved from aston to west brom.....But the mother is a mystery...and a marriage ?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Jan 2014 13:19

???

Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%)
Sheakles Albert West Bromwich 6b 1525
Wilkes Bessie W. Bromwich 6b 1525

Marie

Marie Report 30 Jan 2014 13:22

perfect....Yes......there was a rumour her name was Betty ???


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Jan 2014 13:25

???


1891 England Census about Bessie Wilkes
Name: Bessie Wilkes
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Josiah Wilkes
Mother's Name: Martha Wilkes
Gender: Female
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration District: West Bromwich
Sub-registration District: West Bromwich North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2274
Folio: 19
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Josiah Wilkes 40
Martha Wilkes 38
Mary Wilkes 15
Martha Wilkes 9
Bessie Wilkes 7
Lavinia Wilkes 5
Lizzie Wilkes 3

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Jan 2014 13:29

????

Births Sep 1883 (>99%)
WILKES Elizabeth W. Bromwich 6b 808

Or, less likely:

Births Mar 1882 (>99%)
Wilkes Eliza W. Bromwich 6b 820

Or:
Births Jun 1885 (>99%)
Wilkes Elizabeth W. Bromwich 6b 848

Marie

Marie Report 30 Jan 2014 13:38

Is it normal or should I say commom that they would be born Elizabeth but then use bessie on a Marriage document ?

Andrew

Andrew Report 30 Jan 2014 13:51

1911?


1911 England Census
about Albert Shackles

Name:Albert Shackles
Age in 1911:21
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1890
Relation to Head:Son
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Tat Bank, Worcestershire
Civil Parish:Oldbury
County/Island:Staffordshire
Country:England
Street Address:10 Tat Bank Rd, Oldbury
Marital status:Single
Occupation:Boatman
Registration District:West Bromwich
Registration District Number:371
Sub-registration District:Oldbury
ED, institution, or vessel:18
Household Schedule Number:284
Piece:17273
Household Members:
Name
Age
George Shackles 55
Elizabeth Shackles 60
James Withey 31
Rose Withey 30
>>> Albert Shackles 21
George Albert Withey 9
Edward Withey 3
Thomas Earnest Withey 1


Andy


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Jan 2014 13:53

It is not that unusual.

??


..England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Elizabeth Wilkes Name: Elizabeth Wilkes
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 5 Jul 1883
Birth Place: West Bromwich, Stafford, Eng.
Baptism Date: 1 Aug 1883
Baptism Place: West Bromwich, Stafford, England
Father: Josiah Wilkes
Mother: Martha
FHL Film Number: 1526219
Reference ID: 2:351T76F


Household transcription
1911 census

Person: WILKES, Josiah
Address: Bright Street Wednesbury

WILKES, Josiah Head Married M 62 1849 Tile Manufacturer Darlaston Staffordshire VIEW
WILKES, Mary Wife Married40 years F 58 1853 Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW
WILKES, Elisabeth Daughter Single F 26 1885 Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW
WILKES, Leonard Son Single M 14 1897 Telegraph Messenger Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 17347
Reference: RG14PN17347 RG78PN1063 RD371 SD5 ED19 SN192
Registration District: West Bromwich
Sub District: Wednesbury
Enumeration District: 19
Parish: Wednesbury
Address: Bright Street Wednesbury
County: Staffordshire
(6 children born, 4 living, 2 had died)

Bessie on the 1901...

..1901 England Census
about Josiah Wilks Name: Josiah Wilks
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Martha Wilks
Birth Place: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: West Bromwich
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Josiah Wilks 49
Martha Wilks 49
Martha Wilks 19
Bessie Wilks 17
Lavinia Wilks 15
Lizzie Wilks 12
Ernest Wilks 8



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Jan 2014 15:07

2 more baptism's


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Martha Wilkes Name: Martha Wilkes
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 29 Oct 1881
Birth Place: West Bromwich, Stafford, Eng.
Baptism Date: 16 Nov 1881
Baptism Place: West Bromwich, Stafford, England
Father: Josiah Wilkes
Mother: Martha
FHL Film Number: 1526219
Reference ID: yrs 1880-1886 p 35


..England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
about Lavinia Wilkes Name: Lavinia Wilkes
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 2 Sep 1885
Birth Place: West Bromwich, Stafford, Eng.
Baptism Date: 23 Sep 1885
Baptism Place: West Bromwich, Stafford, England
Father: Josiah Wilkes
Mother: Martha
FHL Film Number: 1526219
Reference ID: 2:351TVBJ




Marie

Marie Report 30 Jan 2014 23:17

Thank you peeps x x x