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Pinder, peter, and pendar watts.

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Llamedos

Llamedos Report 29 Jan 2014 16:34

Desperately trying to find death records of pinders wife - Mary Elizabeth Winship, I assume she died. 24 December 1909 in Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand.

Can any member help me locate proof of her death, and what was she doing in Auckland?

Hope some member can help me.

David

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jan 2014 16:36

You should include New Zealand in your title..............

How do you know the date if you don't have the record?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jan 2014 16:40

How much research have you done?

1911 census


Person: WATTS, Pinder Address: 7 Station Row Marfleet Hull

WATTS, Pinder Head Married M 68 1843 Navy Pensioner Corpton Hull Paul Yorkshire VIEW
WATTS, Mary Wife Married35 years F 68 1843 Paul Yorkshire

5 CHILDREN...........OF WHOM 3 HAVE DIED

Gee

Gee Report 29 Jan 2014 16:41

1913/2312 Pinder Mary 83Y NZ

I'm a little confused............was her name at the year of death, Mary Elizabeth Winship or Pinder?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jan 2014 16:44

Births Mar 1842 (>99%)
Watts Pinder Skirlaugh 22 619
Watts Pinder Skirlaugh 22 629

Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
Deaths Jun 1916 (>99%)
Watts Pinder 74 Sculcoates 9d 217

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jan 2014 16:45

1901 census

Person: WATTS, Pinder Address: 7, Station Terrace, Sculcoates, Kingston Upon Hull

WATTS, Pinder Head Married M 59 1842 Farm Labourer
Paull, Yorkshire VIEW
WATTS, Mary E Wife Married F 59 1842
Paull, Yorkshire VIEW
WATTS, Annie M Daughter Single F 20 1881 Dressmaker
Rochester, Kent VIEW
WATTS, Albert E Son Single M 17 1884 Shipping Clerk
Marfleet, Yorkshire

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jan 2014 16:46

1871 census

Person: WATTS, Pinder Vessel: Insconstant, Of Spithead Port/place:

WATTS, Pinder Private R M L I M 28 1843 Yorkshire

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jan 2014 16:47

1891 census

Person: WATTS, Pinder Address: Hull Road, Marfleet, Preston, Kingston Upon Hull

WATTS, Pinder Head Married M 48 1843 General Labourer
Paull, Yorkshire VIEW
WATTS, Mary E Wife Married F 48 1843
Paull, Yorkshire VIEW
WATTS, Annie M Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Rochester, Kent VIEW
WATTS, Albert E Son M 6 1885 Scholar
Marfleet, Yorkshire

Llamedos

Llamedos Report 4 Feb 2014 10:20

Hi Reggie,

Thanks very much for your kind help.
I will take a look still the info you have found.

Llamedos

Thelma

Thelma Report 4 Feb 2014 13:20

She was still alive 1916. Same address as 1911


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Pinder Watts
Name: Pinder Watts
Probate Date: 16 May 1916
Death Date: 10 Apr 1916
Death Place: Kinston upon Hull, Yorkshire-East Riding, England
Registry: Yorkshire, England

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 4 Feb 2014 15:57

for info on the names

Births Mar 1842
Winship Mary Elizabeth Patrington 23 68
(reg dist covers Paull)

12 years too late to be the NZ death
'1913/2312 Pinder Mary 83Y NZ'
and her surname wasn't Pinder ... :-S

they don't seem to have actually married

1881 in Kingston-upon-Hull
(Powder corrected to Pinder by Ancestry user)

Powder Watts 39 married green grocer
Mary Elizabeth Watts 38
Annie Maud Watts under a week? born City of Rochester
Jacob Winship 36 married lodger

can't see a birth for Annie Maud under either surname

for Annie Maud to have been born in Rochester and be in Yorkshire a week later, that was a bit of a trek

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 4 Feb 2014 16:06

Births Sep 1867
Watts William Pinder Medway 2a 416

Deaths Sep 1867
Watts William Pinder 0 Medway 2a 231

Medway reg dist covers Rochester

is this a child of Pinder?


is Mary's name known to be Winship from a child's birth certificate?

Mary Elizabeth Winship was sister of Jacob Winship (1851 and 1861 censuses) who was with the Watts household in 1881