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26 Jan 2014 17:09 |
Burial County Staffordshire Place Walsall Church St Peter RegisterNumber 2171 BurialDate 20 Aug 1859 Forename Benjamin Relationship Rel1MaleForename Rel1FemaleForename Rel1Surname Surname PAGET Age 29 Abode Pleck
(could be Catherine)
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26 Jan 2014 16:53 |
Wonder if this is why Benjamin Pagett and Harriett Brighton never married?
Benjamin Pagett England and Wales, Death Index 1837-1920 death: 1859 Walsall, Staffordshire, England
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26 Jan 2014 16:40 |
1861 (a guess?) GOODWIN, James Lodger Married M 18 1843 Carpenter Darlaston, Staffordshire GOODWIN, Harriet Wife Married F 23 1838 Darlaston, Staffordshire GOODWIN, Benjamin Son M 1 1860 Bloxwich, Staffordshire Piece: 2014 Folio: 93 Page: 24 Registration District: Walsall Civil Parish: Walsall Municipal Borough: Walsall Address: Wednesbury Road, Walsall County: Staffordshire
Marriages Jun 1860 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------- Goodwin James Henry Walsall 6b 7__
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26 Jan 2014 16:18 |
Truly amazing! Thankyou all very much.
So we have two lots of Benjamin & Harriet's.
I wonder why he called himself Benjamin Pagett on his son's birth cert?
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26 Jan 2014 16:14 |
Wonder if his mother Harriet married:-
Marriages Jun 1860 (>99%) Brighton Harriet Walsall 6b 708 Gresty Harriet Walsall 6b 708 Walton Charles Walsall 6b 708
........and so he may be under a differant name in 1861 census?
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26 Jan 2014 16:09 |
Baptism County Staffordshire Place Walsall Church Caledon St. Primitive Methodist Chapel RegisterNumber DateOfBirth 30 Aug 1886 BaptismDate 20 Oct 1886 Forename Annie Sex F FatherForename Benjamin MotherForename Harriett FatherSurname BRIGHTON MotherSurname Abode Pleck, Walsall FatherOccupation Labourer
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Baptism County Staffordshire Place Walsall Church St John RegisterNumber 92 DateOfBirth BaptismDate 30 Nov 1859 Forename Benjamin Pagett Sex M FatherForename MotherForename Harriet FatherSurname MotherSurname BRIGHTON Abode Pleck, Walsall FatherOccupation Spinster Notes No Fathers Name Recorded
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26 Jan 2014 16:08 |
??????? PAGETT, Benjamin Pagett
Registration district: [?] Walsall
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1859
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no:[?]6B
Page no:[?]540
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26 Jan 2014 16:07 |
Looks like he was baptised under the name Brighton:-
Benjamin Pagett Brighton, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975" Name: Benjamin Pagett Brighton Gender: Male Christening Date: 1859 Christening Place: WALSALL, ST. JOHN, STAFFORDSHIRE, ENGLAND
Mother's Name: Harriet Brighton
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C16749-1 System Origin: England-VR GS Film number: 1526195 Reference ID: - 2:35469WS
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26 Jan 2014 16:05 |
Yes that it the correct family, but I cannot see Benjamin on earlier census returns.
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26 Jan 2014 16:04 |
Maybe ????
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Benjamin ? Brighton Name: Benjamin ? Brighton Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1859 Registration District: Walsall Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 340
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26 Jan 2014 16:02 |
Just in case:-
1901 England Census about Benjamin Brighton Name: Benjamin Brighton Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Hariet Brighton Birth Place: Walsall, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Walsall County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Brighton 42 Hariet Brighton 41 Ellen Brighton 20 Emma J Brighton 18 Annie Brighton 14 Rose Brighton 12 Hariet Brighton 10 May Brighton 6 George Brighton 3 Bennie Brighton 3 Arthur Brighton 1
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1911 England Census about Banjamin Brighton Name: Banjamin Brighton Age in 1911: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Walsall, Pleck, Staffordshire Civil Parish: Walsall County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address: 177 Prince Street, Pleck, Walsall Marital status: Married Occupation: Cail Labourer Registration District: Walsall Registration District Number: 370 Sub-registration District: Walsall ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Household Schedule Number: 109 Piece: 17184 Household Members: Name Age Banjamin Brighton 52 Harriet Brighton 49 Rose Brighton 22 Harriet Brighton 19 May Brighton 16 Benjamin Brighton 13 George Brighton 13 Arthur Brighton 11 Lily Brighton 7 Howard Brighton 3
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26 Jan 2014 16:02 |
Sorry - the GR site is working painfully s-l-o-w-l-y for me today.
This is one of those messy ones I'm afraid. He married under the above name, but subsequently used the surname Brighton.
On the Birth Cert. of his son Arthur he called himself Benjamin Pagett and the child's mother was Harriet Brighton (but her maiden name was actually Jones). Are you still with me?!
So that was either a mistake or they thought one of them had to have the surname Brighton to be able to pass it on to their son.
The suspicion is that Benjamin was illegitimate; that perhaps Brighton was his birth father's name and that he decided to use it.
There is a birth reg on FreeBMD for a Benjamin Pagett Pagett (sic) in Walsall 1859 which could be him.
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26 Jan 2014 15:59 |
Wonder if this is them?
1881 England Census about Benjeman Brighton Name: Benjeman Brighton Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Harriet Brighton Gender: Male Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Walsall Foreign County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address: 26 Vicarage St Marital status: Married
Occupation: Laborer Gass Tube Works Registration District: Walsall Sub-registration District: Walsall ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2823 Folio: 139 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Benjeman Brighton 22 Harriet Brighton 20 Ellen Brighton 1
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1891 England Census about Benjamin Brighton Name: Benjamin Brighton Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Harriet Brighton Gender: Male Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Walsall Foreign Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Walsall County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration District: Walsall Sub-registration District: Walsall ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2250 Folio: 123 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Brighton 30 Harriet Brighton 29 Ellen Brighton 10 Emma Jane Brighton 9 Annie Brighton 4 Rose Brighton 2
If it is, then maybe he was baptised under the name Brighton. Could be he was illegitiamte but father recognised him????
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26 Jan 2014 15:58 |
I presume his birth is registered as Benjamin Paget Pagett in 1859
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Catherine
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26 Jan 2014 15:47 |
Not what you are looking for but show his father's name:-
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about Benjamin Brighton Pagett Name: Benjamin Brighton Pagett Gender: Male Age: 20 Birth Date: 1859 Marriage Date: 13 Oct 1879 Marriage Place: Rushall, Stafford, England Father: Benjamin Pagett Spouse: Harriet Jones FHL Film Number: 1526109 Reference ID: 2:1NDZ10S
.............sorry you already know that!
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Christine
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26 Jan 2014 15:34 |
Good Afternoon
I am trying to help someone with their tree but have failed to find a baptism for the above chappie.
According to the parish record of his marriage in 1879 his father was also Benjamin.
I have looked on IGI and FreeReg to no avail so I would be very happy if someone else could have a go please!
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