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22 Jan 2014 12:23 |
This is the 1851 that you found Mark.
1851 census transcription details for: 22, Leather Lane, Liberty Of Saffron Hill Hatton Garden Ely Rents & Ely Place In The County Of Middlesex, Finsbury Print Close
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 1515 Folio: 60 Page: 31 Reg. District: Holborn Sub District: Saffron Hill Hatton Garden Ely Rents and Ely Place Parish: Liberty of Saffron Hill Hatton Garden Ely Rents & Ely Place in the County of Middlesex Enum. District: 1C Ecclesiastical District: St Peter City/Municipal Borough: Finsbury Address: 22, Leather Lane, Liberty Of Saffron Hill Hatton Garden Ely Rents & Ely Place In The County Of Middlesex, Finsbury County: Middlesex Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born TAYLOR, William Head Married M 34 1817 Cabman Journeyman Kinton, Herefordshire TAYLOR, Ann Wife Married F 28 1823 Reigate, Surrey TAYLOR, William Son Unmarried M 0 (10 MOS) 1851 St Andrew Holborn
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22 Jan 2014 12:20 |
Your Ann's baptism, her father is a labourer. Leigh is next door to Reigate.
Name: Ann Rice Baptism Date: 14 Jun 1826 Archive Provided Parish: Leigh, St Bartholomew Parish as it Appears: Leigh Father: William Rice Mother: Caroline Rice Reference Number: P19/1/6
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22 Jan 2014 12:15 |
The one that died in 1828
Name: Ann Rice Record Type: Burial Estimated Death Date: abt 1828 Burial Date: 24 May 1828 Age: 20/12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Parish or Poor Law Union: Ockley County: Surrey Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
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22 Jan 2014 12:09 |
There seems to have been more than one Ann Rice in the Reigate area this one married at Dorking, just up the road from Reigate and her father was also William, a labourer. There is no Rice/Taylor marriage in Surrey Parish Records 1757-1937
Ann Rice Age: Full Age Marriage Date: 13 Feb 1869 Archive Provided Parish: Dorking, St Martin Parish as it Appears: Dorking Spouse: Isaac Weller Spouse Age: Full Age Father: William Rice Spouse Father: David Weller Reference Number: DOM/2/2/4
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22 Jan 2014 10:20 |
Brothers marriage to Ann Stevens.
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about George Rice Name: George Rice Spouse Name: Ann Stevens Record Type: Banns Event Date: 5 Sep 1848
Married Sept 12th********************************* Parish: New Brentford St Lawrence Borough: Hounslow Register Type: Parish Register
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Mark
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22 Jan 2014 09:57 |
Found the correct 1851 census. Ann and William are in Saffron Hill, she claims to born 1822 from Reigate and William from Kington Herefordshire. Piece 1515 Folio 60 page 31 ED St Peter RD Holborn Can find this record on genes but not ancestry
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22 Jan 2014 08:33 |
Following on from Joonie
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name:Ann Rice
Spouse Name:Marcus Forbes <<Mariner
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:1 May 1842
Parish:Fulham All Saints
Borough:Hammersmith and Fulham
Father Name:William Rice <<No occupation given
Spouse Father:John Forbes <<Sergeant major
Register Type:Parish Register
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Mark
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22 Jan 2014 05:40 |
Hi Joonie,
many thanks for your answer,
Re fancy soap maker sorry confusing the facts their son William was in that profrssion
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22 Jan 2014 01:29 |
have you obtained the birth certificate of one of the Taylor children ?
that would settle the issue of their mother's name and is probably the only way you will do it.
for info
1851 does not match the info at all
Name: Ann Taylor Age: 26 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Taylor > Where born: St Martins, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Giles in the Fields
> Name: William Taylor occupation poultry hawker Age: 39 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Taylor > Where born: St Giles, Middlesex, England
They have a son William aged 1
1861
Name: Ann Taylor Age: 34 > Estimated Birth Year: 1827 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Taylor > Where born: Leigh, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Saffron Hill
> Name: William Taylor occupation cab driver Age: 46 > Estimated Birth Year: 1815 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Taylor > Where born: Cardsley, Herefordshire, England
son William aged 11 is mistrancribed as 4
1871
Name: Ann Taylor Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Taylor Gender: Female Where born: Leigh, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Ely Rents and Hatton Garden and Saffron Hill
William is again a cab driver
why am I not finding a fancy soap maker in 1851 ?
William was a good deal older than Ann. Very possibly he had been married before and his wife was not deceased, so they were not able to marry.
these are the only two records for the name Marcus Forbes before 1949
Marriages Jun 1842 FORBES Marcus Kensington 3 194 Deaths Sep 1846 Forbes Marcus Southampton 7 156
so that could have been your Ann marrying him and she could have been a widow, but still unable to marry if William was married.
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Mark
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22 Jan 2014 00:18 |
Hi Can anyone help me find a marriage for Ann Rice, I am researching this family and I knew that other trees state she died ic1828. However, I believe she survived perhaps there are more one person! Her parents are William Rice and Caroline Rice (nee Dudley) in 1841 she is working as a servant in Reigate, Surrey. in 1851 she is the wife of William Taylor who was born c1812/13 who was born in Cardsley Hertfordshire or London depending on the census, his occupation being a fancy soap maker. In 1851 they are in St Giles in the Fields, London In 1861 Saffron Hill 1871 Ely Rents, hatton garden and saffron hill 1881 St George, Bloomsbury In 1891 & 1901 being a widow she is residing with her brother George Rice in Berkhamstead. she had a least 3 children William c1850, Harry 1854 and Fanny 1860. So, I am looking for marriage to William Taylor somewhere between 1841 and 1851, to prove she is Ann Rice but I can't find one. I did wonder about a previous marriage and found Ann Rice marrying a Marcus Forbes in London in 1842, but I can't find a marriage of William Taylor to Ann Forbes Further evidence ithat she is a Rice is that her daughter-in-law Mary Ann Taylor as relative staying with her William Rice born c1866 Ewell, Surrey which would be Ann's nephew Can anyone help? Regards Mark
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