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Pauline
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17 Jan 2014 09:47 |
Thank you all for answering my query. To answer rootgatherer, Abraham Ansell and George Ansell were bothers. Abraham married Elizabeth Ann Whittle, had Robert and Betsy Jane and then left her. Brother George then took over and had numerous other children with Elizabeth Ann who were half brothers and sisters to Robert. Hope that explains it. The Abraham Ansell married to Charlotte is NOT my Abraham. They were cousins. My Abraham disappeared before the 1881 census and I cannot find him anywhere.
best wishes to all, Pauline
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Cynthia
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16 Jan 2014 16:02 |
Hello Pauline and welcome to the Community Boards.
I will let Pauline know that she has replies to her query. :-)
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ErikaH
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15 Jan 2014 22:43 |
Pauline
Use freebmd to find info between 1837 and approx 1955
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
For Lancashire......look at
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
AND
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
...........and when asking for help.....give date info (even a decade is helpful)
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rootgatherer
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15 Jan 2014 19:30 |
I am not sure how George's children could be have siblings to Robert if George was Robert's uncle? Surely they would be cousins. Are you absolutely certain that Robert wasn't George's son?
Looks like Alice and Jessie died as infants.
Deaths Dec 1918 Hansell Alice 2 Blackburn 8e 738
Deaths Mar 1919 Hansell Jessie 2 Blackburn 8e 833
Looks like Marion may not have married?
Name: Marion Hansell Birth Date: 30 May 1913 Date of Registration: Jun 1972 Age at Death: 59 Registration District: Manchester Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 10e Page: 46
Name: Florence M Hansell Spouse Surname: Walsh, Ralph Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1928 Registration District: Blackburn Inferred County: Lancashire Volume Number: 8e Page Number: 887
Look on Freebmd for children from the above marriage.
Name: Florence May Walsh Birth Date: 21 Jan 1906 Date of Registration: Jun 1979 Age at Death: 73 Registration District: Blackburn Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 40 Page: 0167
Possible marriage for Robert?
Marriages Sep 1933 Hansell Robert Livesey Blackburn 8e 946 Livesey Agnes Hansell Blackburn 8e 946
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Chris Ho :)
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15 Jan 2014 19:17 |
Baptism Baptism Day:26 Baptism Month:Mar Baptism Year:1856 Forenames(s):Abraham Surname:Ansell Father's Forename(s):Isaac Father's Occupation:Labourer Mother's Forename(s):Esther Mother's Surname: Birth Day:11 Birth Month:Dec Birth Year:1853 Page:88 Place:Great Great Great Amwell & Broxbourn County:Hertfordshire Data provider:Hertfordshire Archives & Local Studies
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 Abraham Ansell Male Christening Date: 5 Aug 1849 Christening Place: Stevenage, Hertfordshire, England Father's Name: Benjamin Ansell Mother's Name: Jane
George Ansell Christening Date: 4 Aug 1844 Christening Place: Stevenage, Hertfordshire, England Father's Name: Benjamin Ansell Mother's Name: Jane Chris :)
http://www.hertsdirect.org/services/leisculture/heritage1/hals/indexes/
(Names Online, bottom of above page, sometimes useful!)
Births Jun 1849 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------- ANSELL Abraham Hitchin 6 570
Births Mar 1854 (>99%) -------------------------------------------- Ansell Abraham Ware 3a 149
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rootgatherer
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15 Jan 2014 19:12 |
Marriages Dec 1899
Bloxham Charlotte Blackburn 8e 670 Bury Alice Blackburn 8e 670 CROMPTON Thomas Alfred Blackburn 8e 670 Hansell Robert Blackburn 8e 670
Another 3 children born after the 1911 census.
Births Jun 1913 Hansell Marion Bury Blackburn 8e 822
Births Sep 1916 Hansell Alice Bury Blackburn 8e 619 Hansell Jessie Bury Blackburn 8e 619
Use Freebmd to look for marriages of Robert's children.
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rootgatherer
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15 Jan 2014 19:03 |
1911
Name: Abraham Ansell Age in 1911: 59 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Goos Green, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Hertford County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address: 8A Dolphin Yard, Maidenhead St, Hertford Marital Status: Married Occupation: Gravel Pit Labourer Registration District: Hertford Registration District Number: 137 Sub-registration District: Hertford ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household Schedule Number: 124 Piece: 7625 Household Members: Name Age Abraham Ansell 59 Charlott Ansell 42 Jacob Ansell 17 Charlott Ansell 15
Married 24 years, 7 children born, 4 living, 3 had died
1901
Name: Abraham Ansell Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Charlotte Ansell Birth Place: Goose Green, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Little Amwell Town: Little Amwell County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Abraham Ansell 43 Charlotte Ansell 33 Emma Ansell 14 Caroline M Ansell 11 Jacob Ansell 9 Charlotte Ansell 5 Joseph Ansell 3 Weeks
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rootgatherer
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15 Jan 2014 18:47 |
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Name: Robt Hansell Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Hansell Mother's Name: Elizth Hansell Gender: Male Where born: Darwen, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Over Darwen Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Darwen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration District: Blackburn Sub-registration District: Darwen ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3414 Folio: 83 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age George Hansell 41 Farm Labourer, b. Hereford Elizth Hansell 35 Henry W Hansell 14 Robt Hansell 12 Betsy Hansell 10 Alice Hansell 7 Elizth A Hansell 4 Robert Whittle 57 Father, widower, General Labourer Nancy Hansell 7 Weeks
All except GEorge born Darwen
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GlitterBaby
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15 Jan 2014 18:42 |
Robert 1979 Betsey Jane 1881
If they are the right ones on 1881 census with George And Elizabeth
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rootgatherer
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15 Jan 2014 18:41 |
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1911
Name: Robert Hansell Age in 1911: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Darwen, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Darwen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 23 Lower Cross St Darwen Lanc Marital Status: Married Occupation: Clothlooker Registration District: Blackburn Registration District Number: 474 Sub-registration District: Darwen ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Piece: 25146 Household Members: Name Age Robert Hansell 34 Alice Hansell 32 Florence May Hansell 5 Robert Hansell 3 Sarah Ann Bury 60 Mother-in-law
Married 12 years 3 children born, 2 living 1 had died
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GlitterBaby
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15 Jan 2014 18:36 |
Dates would be useful
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Pauline
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15 Jan 2014 18:30 |
I am looking for the decendents of Robert Ansell /Hansell. Robert was the son of Abraham Ansell born in Stevenage but brought up by George Ansell his brother. Robert was born in Darwen Lancashire as Robert Hansell. He had a sister, Betsy Jane. He also had various half siblings with George being the father. On of these was my grandmother Alice Hansell.
Pauline
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