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Liking that Alviegal.

Earlier census had his father as Jesse. And didn't Freda have Emily as a middle name at one point?

Sounds good although this may be his death.


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Alfred Burgess
Name: Alfred Burgess
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1888
Age at Death: 25
Registration District: Barnet
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 131


He could have had children though and I think this may be his marriage with a Hertfordshire connection.


England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Alfred Burgess
Name: Alfred Burgess
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1863
Age: 24
>>Father's Name: Jesse Burgess
Spouse's Name: Emily Brewer
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse's Father's Name: George Brewer
Marriage Date: 29 Sep 1887
Marriage Place: Shenley, Hertfordshire, England



1871 census transcription details for: Lodge Lane, Finchley
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 1334
Folio: 20
Page: 32
Reg. District: Barnet
Sub District: Finchley
Parish: Finchley
Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Lodge Lane, Finchley
County: Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
>>BURGESS, Jesse Head labourer M 64 1807 King? Oxfordshire
BURGESS, Frances Wife F 50 1821 Middlesex
BURGESS, Thomas Son M 15 1856 Middlesex
BURGESS, Jane Daughter F 12 1859 Middlesex
BURGESS, Alfred Son M 8 1863 Middlesex

Bit of a long shot but could this man be related?

1881

Name: Alfred Burgess
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Gender: Male
Where born: Finchley, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Finchley
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address: Torrington Cottage Lodge Lane
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Gardener

Registration District: Barnet
Sub-registration District: Finchley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1372
Folio: 35
Page Number: 64
Household Members:
Name Age
Frances Burgess 60
Alfred Burgess 17

Irene is with sister, Dorothy in 1911 in Brixton so can't be any connection there Mavis.

HUNT, George Stanley Head Married M 33 1878 Commercial Traveller Wallpaper Brixton London
HUNT, Dorothy Wife Married F 21 1890 Occasional Secretarial Work Finchley London
FOX, Irene Sister In Law Single F 24 1887 School Teacher Finchley London

come on you kind researchers do see if you can help

Freda is a problem ;-) <3

Mavis

In my first message on this post, I did include the link and explain that I had previously asked for information on Arthur Jackson as I didn't want to get in trouble for posting twice. However in this post I only wanted help in locating birth records for Freda Hebdon.

In my first message on this post, I did include the link and explain that I had previously asked for information on Arthur Jackson as I didn't want to get in trouble for posting twice. However in this post I only wanted help in locating birth records for Freda Hebdon.

there you go -- I have been trying to locate a Freda / Frieda / Frida or then could be Alfreda or even Winifred born Finchley [should be Middlesex] Hertfordshire

Finchley comes under Barnet Middlesex

along the way in 1901 found 2 children born Finchley in Sheffield

in the Page Hall Orphanage

Irene Fox 1887 and sister Dorothy Fox 1890

Irene is Annie M I Fox / Dorothy is just Dorothy Fox --- there is a tree for Dorothy on Ancestry but no Irene /Annie

its bed time so that will keep unless some one would care to follow them ??

Mavis

I see you already have another post about this family

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1211768

Marries as Hebdon to Jackson
but then married as Burgess to Abson

Gives Burgess as her maiden name on son's birth cert

Would normally say Jackson, late Hebdon, formerly Burgess

I wondered about the possibility of being born outside of the country but with the inconsistencies with her surname, I'm not sure how easy that would be to follow. Why would she state Finchley, Hertfordshire as her birth town?

Sorry registered in Sculcoates, Yorkshire

I wonder if Freda was FRIEDA from abroad ?

Yes the one to Abson states that she was a widow. However James Arthur Jackson was imprisoned for bigamy so I wondered if she had told her son that he had died instead of admitting that he had left. I could never find a death record for an Arthur Jackson in 1914 or 1915 and there is no record of a man falling from a train and dying from his injuries as she had claimed.
My grandfather was born in Sculcoates, Yorkshire in 1914

When/ where was you grandfather born?

Does Freda's marriage cert say she's a widow ?

She was 27 when she married Abson according to the marriage certificate I ordered in 1915.
She is 22 in 1910 on the marriage certificate to Jackson

Name:
Freda E Abson

Birth Date:abt 1891

Date of Registration:Mar 1934

Age at Death:43

Registration District:Goole

Inferred County:Yorkshire West Riding

Volume:9c
Page:1039

It's been very confusing..
I originally had my granddad's birth certificate which said Freda Jackson, formerly Burgess so we assumed that that must be her maiden name.
I ordered the 1915 marriage certificate to Abson which states her name as Freda Emily Burgess and her father's name as Alfred Jackson, deceased gardener.
We had originally discounted the Freda Jackson from Finchley in the 1911 census because the maiden name was Hebdon but we had a look at the wedding certificate and it states her as Freda Hebdon, and her dad as Alfred Hebdon, deceased gardener.
The Alfred / deceased / gardener seemed a big coincidence so I assume she must have made a mistake and given his name as Jackson?

Are you sure you have the right Freda ?

The one who married Adson looks to be a lot younger according to someone's tree ... and not born in Hertfordshire


Name:
Freda Emily Burgess

Birth: 1891 - Yorkshire, England
Death: 1934 - Goole, Yorkshire
Marriage: 1915 - Goole, Yorkshire
Spouse: Francis Henry Abson

so this is her 2nd marriage ?

Marriages Jun 1915
Burgess Freda E - Francis H Abson- Goole 9c 1925