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Frederick Soper Born 1853/1854, Plymouth Devon

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Laura

Laura Report 10 Jan 2014 21:14

Thanks for all the information

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 10 Jan 2014 19:39

Marriage Soper - Beer
16/04/1920 Lapford church, Frederick Norman second son of Mr and Mrs Frederick Soper of 12 Whitfield Terrace Plymoutg to Olive only daughter of Mr Beer of Kelland Barton, Lapford.

Researching:
Matthew and Jane Elwood who had my great great grandfather Francis Edward Elwood baptised in 1807 at Horsham Sussex. There is no sign of Matthew or Jane from this date and my great great grandfather was brought up as Francis Edward Elwood MITCHELL

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 10 Jan 2014 19:30

Annie died 22/12/1947 and was buried on 29/12/1947 at St Emmanuel Plymouth. Same church as Fred

Researching:
Matthew and Jane Elwood who had my great great grandfather Francis Edward Elwood baptised in 1807 at Horsham Sussex. There is no sign of Matthew or Jane from this date and my great great grandfather was brought up as Francis Edward Elwood MITCHELL

Laura

Laura Report 10 Jan 2014 19:30

Ok thank you. I will look it up. :)

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 10 Jan 2014 19:23

Its on Find My Past in the Newspapers section, also Fred's funeral details, but I can't copy and paste it I typed out the above references.

Researching:
Matthew and Jane Elwood who had my great great grandfather Francis Edward Elwood baptised in 1807 at Horsham Sussex. There is no sign of Matthew or Jane from this date and my great great grandfather was brought up as Francis Edward Elwood MITCHELL

Laura

Laura Report 10 Jan 2014 19:16

Thanks, where can I find the article for Annie Soper's funeral.

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 10 Jan 2014 19:14

Same paper Tuesday 30th December 1947 details the funeral of Mrs Annie Soper of Almoravid Compton Park Plymouth, wife of the late Mr Frederick Soper. It lists the mourners which includes her children and their partners.

Researching:
Matthew and Jane Elwood who had my great great grandfather Francis Edward Elwood baptised in 1807 at Horsham Sussex. There is no sign of Matthew or Jane from this date and my great great grandfather was brought up as Francis Edward Elwood MITCHELL

Laura

Laura Report 10 Jan 2014 19:14

That's great, thank you very much.

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 10 Jan 2014 19:01

Western Morning News . Saturday 3rd January 1931

Death of Mr F Soper of Plymouth.

The death at his home 5 Seymour Park Villas Plymouth on Thursday of Mr Frederick Soper senior partner of F Soper and Sons removes one of the oldest and most respected members of Plymouth cattle and meat trad. Well known all over Devon and Cornwall he was recognised as a great authority on cattle and his judgement much sought after. During his career his firm carried out a number of important contracts. He was also interested in agriculture having had a large farm at Ottery, Tavistock.

Fred's funeral was held at St Emmanuel church Plymouth

Researching:
Matthew and Jane Elwood who had my great great grandfather Francis Edward Elwood baptised in 1807 at Horsham Sussex. There is no sign of Matthew or Jane from this date and my great great grandfather was brought up as Francis Edward Elwood MITCHELL

Laura

Laura Report 10 Jan 2014 18:46

Hi,

Thank you. Yes that is his probate. Thomas Woods Soper is Frederick's brother. They both married ladies who had the same surname as Lewarn so I am assuming that they married two sisters.
I haven't come across a middle name for Frederick yet.

Many Thanks
Laura

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 10 Jan 2014 18:23

Is this his Probate

Frederick Soper of 5 Seymour Park Villas, Mannamead, Plymouth died 01/01/1931.
Probate to Alice Emma Soper spinster and Frederick Norman Soper and Sidney James Soper, butchers. Effects £15,527. 9s. 5d

Researching:
Matthew and Jane Elwood who had my great great grandfather Francis Edward Elwood baptised in 1807 at Horsham Sussex. There is no sign of Matthew or Jane from this date and my great great grandfather was brought up as Francis Edward Elwood MITCHELL

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 10 Jan 2014 18:13

Couldn't see a Baptism, Find My Past, sorry...

Chris :)

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 10 Jan 2014 17:57

Just wondered if this was somehow connected as the mothers surname was Lewarn.

*****EDIT. ...Thomas Woods Soper was the brother of your Frederick

Do you know if your Frederick had a middle name?

Baptism
Forename(s):Frederick Thomas
Surname:Soper
Year:1877
Month:Dec
Day:9
Father's Forename:Thomas Woods
Mother's Forename:Eliza Elizabeth
Mother's Surname:Lewarn
Birth Day:13
Birth Month:Feb
Birth Year:1877
Dedication:Place:Plymouth
County:Devon
Page:Archive Ref:3457/NC1/1Notes:Record source:Baptism Register - Transcripts Data provider:Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Collection Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd

Researching:
Matthew and Jane Elwood who had my great great grandfather Francis Edward Elwood baptised in 1807 at Horsham Sussex. There is no sign of Matthew or Jane from this date and my great great grandfather was brought up as Francis Edward Elwood MITCHELL

Laura

Laura Report 10 Jan 2014 17:01

Hi Chris,

Thank you very much for that.
Is there any way of finding out more information about his birth without ordering the birth certificate? I.e. Mothers maiden name, date of birth, date of baptism or the exact place of birth, I know he was born in Plymouth.

Many Thanks
Laura

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 10 Jan 2014 08:20

Groom's Forenames:Frederick (Bachelor. Butcher)
Groom's Surname:Soper
Groom's Age:
Groom's parish:
Event Year:1878
Event Month:Jan
Event Day:21
Bride's Forenames:Hannah
Bride's Surname:Lewarn
Bride's Age:
Bride's Parish:
Place:Plymouth
Parish:Charles
County:Devon
Groom's Father's Forenames:John Samuel (Deceased. Carrier)
Groom's Father's Surname:Soper
Bride's Father's Forenames:James (Letter Carrier)
Bride's Father's Surname:Lewarn
Event Type:Marriage
Record source:Devon Marriages - Transcripts

Chris :)

Laura

Laura Report 9 Jan 2014 21:57

Hi,

Yes that is the right one, thank you very much.

Laura

patchem

patchem Report 9 Jan 2014 21:50

?
1871 England Census
Frederick Toper Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Lodger Gender: Male
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Laira Green County/Island: Devon Country: England
Registration District: Plympton St Mary Sub-registration District: Plympton
ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Household Schedule Number: 21 Piece: 2111 Folio: 67 Page Number: 5
William H Ross 35
Elizabeth Ross 34
William H G Ross 11
Alfred Ross 10
Eliza E Ross 8
Mary Ross 38
Sarah Ross 24
Thomas Wood Toper 25 Totnes Butcher
Frederick Toper 17 Butcher
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2111; Folio: 67; Page: 5; GSU roll: 831792.

Laura

Laura Report 9 Jan 2014 21:41

Hi,

Please can someone help me find Frederick Soper in the 1871 census. He is listed in the 1861 census in Plymouth, Devon with his parents John and Sarah and siblings. In the 1881 Census he is listed with his wife Hannah Soper (Lewarn) in Plymouth, Devon. I can find his parents in the 1871 census in Plymouth (the record is mis-spelt Saper instead of Soper). He was born in Plymouth.
Any help will be gratefully received please.
Laura