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Sydney James Payne born 09.03.1910 Chelsea

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Janice

Janice Report 7 Jan 2014 05:42

trying to find ancestors unsuccessfully so far

Astra

Astra Report 7 Jan 2014 06:58

Welcome to the boards Janice.

If you look for his parents marriage then you can trace them back.

1911 census transcription details for: 26 Hamble St Fulham SW


National Archive Reference:
RG14PN367 RG78PN11 RD3 SD5 ED30 SN175
Reg. District: Fulham
Sub District: South Fulham
Parish: Fulham
Enum. District: 30
Address: 26 Hamble St Fulham SW
County: London
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
PAYNE, William Head Married M 33 1878 General Labourer Builder's Sussex Forest Row
PAYNE, Ada Wife Married
6 years F 32 1879 Chelsea London
DAUGHTER, Ada Payne M 4 1907 Chelsea London
PAYNE, William Son M 2 1909 Chelsea London
PAYNE, Sydney Son M 1 1910 Chelsea London

Janice

Janice Report 7 Jan 2014 07:29

I am so grateful. I have spent hours and hours on this

Onwards and upwards !!

A huge thank you

Jan
:-D

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Jan 2014 08:10

Hello Jan, the most reliable way to get his background is to order his birth certificate - that will give you his mother's maiden name so you can work back with accuracy:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Mar 1910
PAYNE Sydney James Chelsea 1a 369

(From FreeBMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk/)

Order from GRO http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
Costs £9.25 - tick the box on screen where it asks if GRO references are known.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jan 2014 08:44

Looks like his parents marriage

Name: William James Payne occ milkman
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Age: 27
Spouse Name: Ada Emily Hill
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 May 1905
Parish: Worlds End St John
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: James Payne occ joiner ? Not clear
Spouse Father: William Hill deceased occ builder
Register Type: Parish Register

Both address 32 John Road

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jan 2014 09:14

Possible birth East Grinstead covered Forest Row district


Civil Registration event: Birth

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Name: PAYNE, William James
Registration district: East Grinstead
County: Sussex
Year of registration: 1878
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 2B
Page nos 141

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jan 2014 09:16


Civil Registration event: Birth

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Name: HILL, Ada Emily
Registration district: Chelsea
County: London
Year of registration: 1880
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 1A
Page no: 383

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jan 2014 09:21

Name: Ada Emily Hill
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 May 1880
Father's Name: William Hill occ labourer
Mother's Name: Emily Hill
Parish or Poor Law Union: Chelsea St Luke
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Register Type: Parish Registers
Born 15.3.1880


Baptised with her brother
William Henry Hill born 30.11.1877


Home address 17 Caroline Place

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jan 2014 09:27

1901 England Census about Ada Hill
Name: Ada Hill
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Chelsea
Civil Parish: Fulham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George J Bone 38
Annie L Bone 35
George L W Bone 8
Reginald E Bone 6
William A Bone 5
Gwendoline D Bone 3
Ada Hill 21

1891 census
Name: Ada E Hill
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Hill
Mother's Name: Eliza Hill
Gender: Female
Where born: Chelsea, London, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Fulham
Sub-registration District: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 51
Folio: 100
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hill 53 occ labourer -builders
Eliza Hill 50
Louisa Hill 17
Ada E Hill 11

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 51; Folio: 100; Page: 20; GSU Roll: 6095161.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jan 2014 09:31

Looks like the brother died

Name: William Henry Hill
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1884
Age at Death: 6
Registration District: Chelsea
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 265

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Jan 2014 09:38

Still at the baptism address in 1881

1881 census transcription details for: 17, Caroline Pl, Chelsea

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 86
Folio: 89
Page: 34
Reg. District: Chelsea
Sub District: Chelsea North-East
Parish: Chelsea
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 17, Caroline Pl, Chelsea
County: London, Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HILL, William Head Married M 43 1838 Bricklayer
Chelsea, Middlesex
HILL, Eliza Wife Married F 40 1841 Bricklayer Wife
Marylebone, Middlesex
HILL, George Son Single M 13 1868 Newspaper Boy
Chelsea, Middlesex
HILL, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar
Chelsea, Middlesex
HILL, Louisa Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar
Chelsea, Middlesex
HILL, Sarah Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Chelsea, Middlesex
HILL, William H Son Single M 3 1878
Chelsea, Middlesex
HILL, Ada E Daughter Single F 1 1880
Chelsea, Middlesex

Janice

Janice Report 28 Jan 2014 06:33

quick question is there an easy way to print this, as when I cut and paste it I cant read it..sorry to bother you

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Jan 2014 08:57

Not sure what you mean.................if you C&P to Word, you should have no problem