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6 Jan 2014 13:21 |
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Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837 about Ann Booker Name: Ann Booker Spouse: Luke Biggins Spouse Comments: B. B. Biggin Marriage Date: 1814 Parish: Rotherham
Martha Biggin England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 10 March 1816 DRONFIELD,DERBY,ENGLAND father: Luke Biggin mother: Ann William Biggin England, Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1910 christening: 31 March 1822 Dronfield, Dronfield, Derbyshire, England father: Luke Biggin mother: Anne Biggin
Jane Biggin England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 22 February 1824 DRONFIELD,DERBY,ENGLAND father: Luke Biggin mother: Ann
James Biggin England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: Norton, Derbyshire England christening: 6 August 1826 Norton, Derbyshire, England residence: Norton, Derbyshire, England father: Luke Biggin mother: Ann
Luke Biggin England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 17 August 1828 DRONFIELD,DERBY,ENGLAND father: Luke Biggin mother: Ann
Isaac Biggin England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 9 January 1831 DRONFIELD,DERBY,ENGLAND father: Luke Biggin mother: Ann
Mary Ann Biggin England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 26 May 1833 DRONFIELD,DERBY,ENGLAND father: Luke Biggin mother: Ann
Baptisms found on this free site...
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Click on the above link/site and check out Luke's Christening record in 1792.
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6 Jan 2014 00:13 |
Jane's Father Luke is a widower in the 1851 census.
There does not appear to a wife with him on the 1841 census either.
It seems that after Jane married......her Father and brother William moved in with her and her husband George Rhodes.
It's just gone midnight so i will check back on here later today.
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Clare
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5 Jan 2014 19:18 |
In the 1861 census Jane Biggin is living with her father Luke Biggin unfortunately it doesnt mention her mother!!! Any clues to why please???
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4 Jan 2014 12:25 |
Going back to the 1861 census.........George and Jane have 2 boarders.
Luke and William Biggin.
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about George Rhodes Name: George Rhodes Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1855 Registration District: Sheffield Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume Number: 9c Page Number: 376 Records on Page: Name Jane Biggins George Rhodes
It seems Luke Biggin(s) was Jane's father.
..1851 England Census about Jane Biggin Name: Jane Biggin Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Luke Biggin Gender: F (Female) Where born: Coalaston, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Coalaston County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration District: Chesterfield Sub-registration District: Bolsover ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 30 Piece: 2148 Folio: 558 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Luke Biggin 58 ...Norton Derbyshire Jane Biggin 26 (Unmarried) James Biggin 10 (Grandson) Sarah Biggin 3 (Grandaughter) Elizabeth Biggin 5 Mo (Grandaughter)
Note that Jane and George married in 1855.........and yet on the 1861 census they have a daughter Sarah Rhodes age 13 and a daughter Elizabeth Rhodes age 11.
Perhaps Sarah and Elizabeth Biggin are Jane's illegitimate daughters who took on the surname of Rhodes in 1861.
1841 England Census about Luke Biggin Name: Luke Biggin Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Where born: Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Dronfield Hundred: Scarsdale County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View Image Registration District: Chesterfield Sub-registration District: Dronfield Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 195 Book: 3A Folio: 6 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Robert Unwin 40 Elizabeth Unwin 40 Mary Unwin 16 Edward Unwin 12
Luke Biggin 40 Eliza Biggin 20 Luke Biggin 13 Isaac Biggin 11 Mary Biggin 6 James Biggin 7 Mo
Looking at the image.......the Unwin family are living seperately to the Biggin's.
..1841 England Census about Jane Bigger Name: Jane Bigger>>>>>>>Biggin on the image. Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Gender: Female Where born: Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Norton Hundred: Scarsdale County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View Image Registration District: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration District: Norton Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 195 Book: 18 Folio: 7 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Charles Lowe 18 (M.S)....Man servant Jane Bigger 17 (F.S).... Female Servant
This is how the image appears...
Thomas Linley 38 Sarah Linley 30 Charles Lowe 18 Jane Biggin 17
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4 Jan 2014 11:31 |
I have just spotted the "Boarder"....John Albert Ward who appears in the 1911 census.
Household transcription 1911 census Person: RHODES, William Address: 2 Court 10 Harvey Clough Road Norton Woodseats Sheffield RHODES, William Head Married18 years M 53 1858 General Labourer Lyck Derbyshire VIEW RHODES, Ellen Wife Married F 44 1867 Yorkshire VIEW RHODES, Clara Hanah Daughter Single F 17 1894 No Occupation Norton Yorkshire VIEW RHODES, Herbert Son Single M 16 1895 No Occupation Norton Yorkshire VIEW RHODES, John Albert Son M 11 1900 No Occupation Norton Yorkshire VIEW RHODES, Alice Maud Daughter F 9 1902 Norton Yorkshire VIEW RHODES, Ivy Daughter F 6 1905 Norton Yorkshire VIEW RHODES, Norah Daughter F 2 1909 Norton Yorkshire VIEW WARD, John Albert Boarder Single M 36 1875 No Occupation Norton Yorkshire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 27772 Reference: RG14PN27772 RG78PN1590 RD509 SD4 ED9 SN112 Registration District: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub District: Norton Enumeration District: 9 Parish: Ecclesall Address: 2 Court 10 Harvey Clough Road Norton Woodseats Sheffield County: Yorkshire (West riding) (10 children born, 7 living, 3 had died)
Looking through the census records........John Albert Ward is Ellen's brother.
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Clare
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4 Jan 2014 09:06 |
Thanks for the help about ellen ward :-) I think this could definitely be her :-)
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4 Jan 2014 00:22 |
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IF...this is your Ellen
..1891 England Census about Ellen Ward Name: Ellen Ward Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Ward Mother's Name: Catherine Ward Gender: Female Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Norton Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Backmoor County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration District: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration District: Norton ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3801 Folio: 93 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Ward 46 (File Cutter) Catherine Ward 44 (File Cutter) Ellen Ward 24 John A Ward 25 Clara Ward 13 Edward Ward 5
She is not with the family in 1881...
..1881 England Census about Ellen Ward Name: Ellen Ward Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relationship to Head: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Norton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address: Norton Lees Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: General Servant (Domestic) Registration District: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration District: Norton ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4629 Folio: 54 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age John Fulke Chaundy 38 Catherine Harrt. Chaundy 36 Catherine Mary Chaundy 9 Caroline Fanny Chaundy 8 John Horace Chaundy 7 Chas.Edwd. Chaundy 6 Edith Ann Chaundy 2 Arthur Raymond Chaundy Ellen Ward 15 (General Servant/Domestic)
1881 England Census about Thos. Ward Name: Thos. Ward Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Catherine Ward Gender: Male Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Norton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address: Harvey Clough Rd Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: File Cutter Registration District: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration District: Norton ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4629 Folio: 77 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Thos. Ward 36 (File Cutter) Catherine Ward 32 Joe Ward 11 Ann Elizth. Ward 9 Jno. Albt. Ward 5 Clara Ward 3
1871 England Census about Ellen Ward Name: Ellen Ward Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Ward Mother's Name: Catharine Ward Gender: Female Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration District: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration District: Ecclesall Bierlow ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household Schedule Number: 171 Piece: 4668 Folio: 64 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Barton 28 Hannah Barton 24 Elizabeth Swart 19 Lodgers.... Thomas Ward 26 (File Cutter) Catharine Ward 23 Ellen Ward 4 Joseph Ward 1
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Clare
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3 Jan 2014 20:38 |
Help finding ellen ward who married william rhodes in 1893.
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3 Jan 2014 19:46 |
Hi Clare
Type your reply in the white box below........and then click on the green "Submit" box.
That way........we can all read your reply and try our best to help you.
Prickles. x :-)
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3 Jan 2014 17:40 |
pm received:-
I now need to find ellen rhodes whose maiden name was ward their family if possible.
Regards
clare
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3 Jan 2014 16:20 |
Hmmm, so where is William Rhodes in 1891?
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3 Jan 2014 16:04 |
..1901 England Census about William Rhodes Name: William Rhodes Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Ellen Rhodes Birth Place: Backmoor, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Norton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Rhodes 44 Ellen Rhodes 35 .....Sheffield Yorkshire Clara Hannah Rhodes 7 Herbert Rhodes 6 Katie Jane Rhodes 2 John Albert Rhodes 1
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about William Rhodes Name: William Rhodes Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1892 Registration District: Ecclesall Bierlow Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume Number: 9c Page Number: 520 Records on Page: Name William Rhodes Ellen Ward
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3 Jan 2014 16:00 |
1911 states born Syck:-
1911 England Census about William Rhodes Name: William Rhodes Age in 1911: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Syck, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Ecclesall County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding Country: England Street Address: 2 Ct 11 Harveylebough Rd Hesley Sheffield Marital Status: Married Occupation: General Labourer Registration District: Ecclesall Bierlow Registration District Number: 509 Sub-registration District: Norton ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Piece: 27772 Household Members: Name Age William Rhodes 53 Ellen Rhodes 44 Clara Hannah Rhodes 17 Herbert Rhodes 16 John Albert Rhodes 11 Alice Maud Rhodes 9 Iry Rhodes 6 Norah Rhodes 2 John Albert Ward 36
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3 Jan 2014 15:58 |
This looks to be the William married to Ellen:-
1901 England Census about William Rhodes Name: William Rhodes Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Ellen Rhodes Birth Place: Backmoor, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Norton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Road Labourer for Corporation
Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Rhodes 44 Ellen Rhodes 35 Clara Hannah Rhodes 7 Herbert Rhodes 6 Katie Jane Rhodes 2 John Albert Rhodes 1
..........states born Backmoor.
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3 Jan 2014 15:56 |
There are 2 or 3 William Rhodes born same time, same area so be sure this is your William you will need to buy a copy of the certificate:-
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about William Rhodes Name: William Rhodes Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1892 Registration District: Ecclesall Bierlow Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume Number: 9c Page Number: 520 Records on Page: Name Edwin Hinchliffe William Rhodes Alice Smith Ellen Ward
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3 Jan 2014 15:51 |
PM received from Clare....
It seems we have the right family because William's father was a "Nail Maker"
Clare is trying to find out if her William married Ellen Ward.
I have advised her on how to return and to reply on this thread.
Prickles.
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3 Jan 2014 15:38 |
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George Rhodes, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975" Name: George Rhodes Gender: Male Christening Date: 13 Oct 1822 Christening Place: St. James', Norton, Derbyshire, England Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: William Rhodes Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Hannah Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01623-7 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 6343577 Reference ID: yr 1813-1846 p 55
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3 Jan 2014 15:18 |
Hi Clare and welcome to the boards.
We need some further information to be able to help you with this.
Exactly where in Derbyshire was William born?
Is George Williams father?
Might this be them...
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..1861 England Census about William Rhodes Name: William Rhodes Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Rhodes Mother's Name: Jane Rhodes Gender: Male Where born: Norton, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Norton Ecclesiastical parish: Norton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration District: Norton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 24 Piece: 3467 Folio: 43 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age George Rhodes 38 (House Nail Maker) Jane Rhodes 36 Sarah Rhodes 13 Elizabeth Rhodes 11 Eliza Rhodes 6 William Rhodes 4 Herbert Rhodes 2 Luke Biggin 69 (Lodger) William Biggin 39 (Lodger) 1871 England Census about George Rhodes Name: George Rhodes Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Rhodes Gender: Male Where born: Norton, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Norton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration District: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration District: Norton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household Schedule Number: 156 Piece: 4667 Folio: 58 Page Number: 31 Household Members: Name Age George Rhodes 48 (Nail Maker) Jane Rhodes 46 Herbert Rhodes 10 Lucy Rhodes 8 Walter Rhodes 6 Clara Rhodes 11 Months Thomas Rhodes 38
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3 Jan 2014 15:17 |
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Geo Rhodes, "England and Wales Census, 1881" Name: Geo Rhodes Age (Original): 58 Gender: Male Birth Year: 1823 Birthplace: Hemsworth, Derbyshire, England Relationship to Head of Household: Head Marital Status: Married Occupation: Nail Maker Address: Backmoor Event Place: Norton (Derby), Yorkshire (West Riding), England Disability: Record Type: Household GS Film number: 1342118 Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 4629 / 70 Page Number: 7 Household Gender Age Birthplace Head Geo Rhodes M 58 Hemsworth, Derbyshire, England Wife Jane Rhodes F 56 Coalaston, Derbyshire, England Daughr Sarah Parr F 33 Coalaston, Derbyshire, England Son Wm Rhodes M 24 Norton, Derbyshire, England xxxx Son Walter Rhodes M 16 Norton, Derbyshire, England Grand Daughr Clara Rhodes F 10 Norton, Derbyshire, England Grand Daughr Alice Parr F 8 South Bank, Derbyshire, England Grand Daughr Alice Rhodes F 7 Gleadless, Derbyshire, England Lodger Head Wm Swinden M 24 Dronfield Woodhouse, Derbyshire, England
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3 Jan 2014 15:09 |
Please could anyone give me any info about these two people who came from the derbyshire area.
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