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Hello All
Totally new to New Zealand research.
I have found a Alice Mary Smith in 1878 dau of John & Rebecca Smith.
Rebecca's maiden name would be Hanmer if they are the correct couple, is there any way of getting further info before I order the birth certificate.
Thank you for any advise.
John

Where have you found this Alice Mary Smith?

Where did Rebecca and John marry.. cannot see anything in NZ marriages?


Edit: and to follow through did Alice Mary .. Marry

1878/12414 Smith Alice Mary Rebecca John

is the birth from the New Zealand records site, but I can't find any more relevant info

Hello

Info was from the New Zealand records site (BMD).
John and Rebecca married in 1865 at Brewood Staffordshire England.
They had Thomas 1867, knockin Salop, William 1869 Penkridge Staffs & George 1874 Worfield Salop. After which they all vanish.
Best Wishes John

1871 for reference on the family.

1871 census transcription details for: Shull Green, Brewood
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 2922
Folio: 44
Page: 7
Reg. District: Penkridge
Sub District: Brewood
Parish: Brewood
Enum. District: 4
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Shull Green, Brewood
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
SMITH, John Head M 26 1845 Staffordshire
SMITH, Rebbecca Wife F 27 1844 Shropshire
SMITH, Thomas Son M 4 1867 Shropshire
SMITH, William Son M 2 1869 Staffordshire

You could always look through the NZ newspapers which are free online

. I have found quite a lot of info including Births, Marriages and Deaths. The newspapers were very parochial and printed all sorts of small news items which our UK newspapers would not have bothered to print.

I hope this post is helpful to you.

David Timmins

I didn't find anything obvious on Papers Pat but here's the link if John wants to give it a go http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast

I also checked the New Zealand immigration records on FamilySearch but with a surname like Smith it's not easy.

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1609792

To know for sure if the Rebecca who was Alice's mother is 'yours', you would probably need to spend the $ and get the birth certifcate, unfortunately :-( This will give you her maiden name and birthplace.

Hello John

Don't know if this is of any help but found this marriage in 1913 reg no 1031

Alice Frances Mary Hamer Smith to Alfred Henry Smith

wondered if the "Hamer" was any connection as you mention Rebeccas maiden name was "Hanmer."

Unfortunately you would have to order the cert to get the parent's names.

Michelle

Hello All,
Thank you all for some interesting thoughts.
I have gone ahead and ordered the cert, fingers crossed
Best Wishes
John