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Please can anyone find a census for kings Lynn / freebridge Lynn proving Eliza Curle b 1844 is the daughter ( poss illegimate) of Amy Curle b 1823 and of ? Father.Also is Amy Curle the daughter of Mary b 1799 before she m Steven Poll( ref census 1881).
Thankyou

Could you please post the 1881 census details which you mentioned

Who married Poll? And when?

Censuses don't prove relationships...........they only record what they are said to be.

1861
Is this your Eliza as a servant?

Name: Eliza Curl
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Swanton Morley, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Cranworth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Mitford
Sub-registration District: Shipdham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 5
Piece: 1239
Folio: 19
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Crafer 43
Anne Crafer 37
Elizabeth Crafer 7
Charles Crafer 5
Annie Charlotte Crafer 4
William R Crafer 1
Louisa Stevens 21
Mary Anne Smith 18
Eliza Curl 16

Probably not as this girl is with her parents in 1851

Name: Elizabeth Curl
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry Curl
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Curl
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Swanton Morley, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Swanton Morley
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Mitford
Sub-registration District: Shipdham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 63
Piece: 1824
Folio: 384
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Curl 49
Elizabeth Curl 47
Mary Curl 26
Hannah Curl 11
Elizabeth Curl 5
George Curl 20
Charles Curl 14
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We need something solid to work back from

Please can you provide some proof of the existence of Amy..............and also of Eliza

How did you work back to them?

Do you have any documentary backup?

Baptism
County Norfolk
Place West Bilney
Church St Cecilia
RegisterNumber 48
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 09 Sep 1821
Forename Amy
Sex F
FatherForename
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname
MotherSurname CURL

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

Is this the marriage you refer to?
Although the Ancestry transcription says Cure, it's clearly Curl on the image.


Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837 about Stephen Poll
Name: Stephen Poll
Spouse: Mary Cure
Marriage Date: 1823
Parish: West Bilney

For our ref:

1841 England Census about Stephen Poll
Name: Stephen Poll
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Pentney
Hundred: Freebridge Lynn
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration District: Freebridge Lynn
Sub-registration District: Gayton
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 769
Book: 6
Folio: 10
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Poll 45
Mary Poll 39
Amy Poll 19
Stephen Poll 15
William Poll 12
Caroline Poll 10
Sarah Poll 6



1851 England Census about Stephen Pole
Name: Stephen Pole
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1797
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Poll
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Bilney, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Pentney
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Freebridge Lynn
Sub-registration District: Hillington
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 82
Piece: 1828
Folio: 327
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Pole 54
Mary Poll 49
William Poll 25 - son
James Poll 9 - grandson
Elizabeth Poll 4 - grand-daughter
Eliza Poll 2 - grand-daughter

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1250975?page=1

(is above relating, Poll)

Chris :)

County Norfolk
Place West Bilney
Church St Cecilia
RegisterNumber 19
MarriageDate 19 Nov 1823
GroomForename Stephen
GroomSurname POLL
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Mary
BrideSurname CURL
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Stephen
WitnessOneSurname POLL
WitnessTwoForename Rebecka
WitnessTwoSurname POLL
Notes Witness Stephen Poll Senior. Both Sign X

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Here's Mary (widowed) with an Amy Morgan (also widowed)
This will be the same family that Linda found above.

1881 England Census about Amy Morgan
Name: Amy Morgan
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Gender: Female
Where born: West Bilney, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address: 2 Wightman St
Marital Status: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: West Ham
Sub-registration District: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 21a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1716
Folio: 78
Page Number: 68
Household Members:
Name Age
Isaac Crafer 37
Elizth. Crafer 34 - b. Pentney
Walter W. Crafer 14
Sarah E. Crafer 8
Lydia M. Crafer 5
Isaac Crafer
Amy Morgan 58 - wife's mother, b. West Bilney
Mary Poll 82 - wife's grandmother, b Beatly

1861 England Census about Amy Morgan
Name: Amy Morgan
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Morgan
Gender: Female
Where born: Bilney, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Kings Lynn St Margaret
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Kings Lynn
Sub-registration District: Kings Lynn South
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 70
Piece: 1257
Folio: 10
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
John Morgan 48
Amy Morgan 38
Elizabeth Morgan 15 - daughter, b Pentney
Philip Morgan 8 - son

1851 England Census about Amy Poll
Name: Amy Poll
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Servant
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Bilney, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Kings Lynn
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Kings Lynn
Sub-registration District: Kings Lynn Middle
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 32
Piece: 1829
Folio: 261
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Wanty 45
Mary Ann Wanty 42
Ann Wanty 73
Amy Poll 27 - servant, b. Bilney
Sarah Poll 18 - servant, b. Pentney

(plus various other servants and lodgers)

1841 England Census about Sarah Poll
Name: Sarah Poll
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Female
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Hackford
Hundred: Forehoe
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration District: Forehoe
Sub-registration District: Wymondham
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 767
Book: 12
Folio: 6
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
John Stubbs 65
Mary Poll 45 - b. Norfolk
William Bales 20
Elizabeth Bales 15
Sarah Poll 7 - b. Norfolk
Henry Poll 5
Jane Poll 3

Amy (Poll in the censuses) married as Curle:

Marriages Dec 1857 (>99%)

Curle Amy Kings Lynn 4b 977
Morgan John Kings Lynn 4b 977

Re Eliza, possible births per FreeBMD (there isn't one in 1844):

Births Sep 1846 (>99%)
Curl Elizabeth Freebridge 13 143
(Freebridge area includes West Bilney).

Births Dec 1845 (>99%)
CURL Eliza Mitford &c 13 209
(Mitford includes East Bilney, and Beetley)

Have you got either of these to see who the mother was?

Thank you all. My previous reply failed when the page went down. I had hoped Mary poll had been a Curle before her marriage ,as shown.i don't know why Amy Poll called herself Curle on her marriage in 1857.
I am looking for a link to Laura Georgina Curle b 1867 kings Lynn ,father William Curle on marriage certificate b kings Lynn. It's probable that William Curle was Amy's cousin.

I haven't got birth certificate s but am waiting for marriage certificate s.