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Linda
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29 Dec 2013 22:13 |
I have spent a fruitless couple of days on this great uncle of mine so am wondering if some more experienced amongst you can help? He appears in the 1911 census as living with his parents, Edward Stevens and Annie Hacker (who I know are correct) as single. However, a John Stevens also appears in same census as married and living with his father in law Mr Ford and wife Bessie with child Olive in Fonthill Bishop. Then yet another appears to have married in 1908 to Hannah Gertrude Jarvis in Wilton. I just can't see the wood for the trees anymore. I'm almost certain he was alive in 1917 as I have a family wedding photo and he's there. Trouble is, my whole family moved around within this small part of Wilts so how can I tell whether these are three separate men or one and the same and the record keeping has gone a bit awry? Any advice gratefully received? Regards, Linda Seymour :-S
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ErikaH
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29 Dec 2013 22:17 |
If he was living with his parents.......and single.....why are you looking at married men?
The name is so common that there are likely to be any number of men with the name in the County.
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ErikaH
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29 Dec 2013 22:18 |
This is quite clear
1911 census
Person: STEVENS, John Address: Berwick St Leonard Fonthill Bishop Salisbury
STEVENS, Edward Head Married M 52 1859 Woodman On Estate Wiltshire Hindon VIEW STEVENS, Annie Wife Married30 years F 47 1864 Wiltshire Berwick St Leonard VIEW STEVENS, John Son Single M 27 1884 Woodman On Estate Wiltshire East Knoyle VIEW STEVENS, Frank Son Single M 21 1890 Waggoner On Estate Wiltshire East Knoyle VIEW STEVENS, Albert Son Single M 14 1897 Labourer Farm Wiltshire Hindon
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patchem
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29 Dec 2013 22:18 |
Presumably this is 'your' John Stevens? Births Jun 1884 Stevens John Tisbury 5a 225
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patchem
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29 Dec 2013 22:22 |
And this is one of the 'other' John Stevens?
1911 England Census John Stevens Age in 1911: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relation to Head: Son-in-law Gender: Male Birth Place: Hindon, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Berwick St Leonard Chicklade Hindon County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address: High Street, Hindon, Salisbury, Wilts Marital Status: Married Occupation: General Labourer Registration District: Tisbury Registration District Number: 255 Sub-registration District: Hindon ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household Schedule Number: 87 Piece: 12148 Albert Ford 67 John Stevens 27 Bessie Stevens 34 Olive May Stevens 3 Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 12148; Schedule Number: 87.
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patchem
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29 Dec 2013 22:25 |
You could get the marriage certificate, just to see who the father was: Marriages Dec 1906 FORD Bessie Tisbury 5a 493 Stevens John Tisbury 5a 493
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ErikaH
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30 Dec 2013 10:13 |
1891......as I suggested above.....several of the name in the County of approx birth year....there were bound to be, with such a common name
1891 census
County: Wiltshire Last name: Stevens First name(s): john Year of Birth: 1884, plus or minus 2 years Searching within: Households, Institutions, Vessels Cost:
Household STEVENS, John 1883 8 M Marlborough Wiltshire VIEW VIEW Household STEVENS, John 1883 8 M Pewsey Wiltshire VIEW VIEW Household STEVENS, John 1882 9 M Wilton Wiltshire VIEW VIEW Household STEVENS, John 1884 7 M Tisbury Wiltshire VIEW
The last of these - born HINDON, with father named LEVI, is almost certainly the one who married FORD
And 'your' John isn't even among them..........
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ErikaH
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30 Dec 2013 10:14 |
1901 census
Household STEVENS, John 1882 19 M Bradford on Avon Wiltshire VIEW VIEW Household STEVENS, John 1884 17 M Bradford on Avon Wiltshire VIEW VIEW Household STEVENS, John 1885 16 M Tisbury Wiltshire VIEW VIEW Household STEVENS, John 1884 17 M Marlborough Wiltshire VIEW VIEW Household STEVENS, John T 1883 18 M Pewsey Wiltshire VIEW VIEW --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Person: STEVENS, John Address: 9, Jubilee Buildings, High Street, Hindon
STEVENS, Edward Head Married M 43 1858 General Labourer Bathampton, Somersetshire VIEW STEVENS, Annie Wife Married F 36 1865 Berwick St Leonard, Wiltshire VIEW STEVENS, John Son Single M 16 1885 Carter On Farm East Knoyle, Wiltshire VIEW STEVENS, Frank Son M 11 1890 East Knoyle, Wiltshire VIEW STEVENS, Louie Daughter F 8 1893 Hindon, Wiltshire VIEW STEVENS, Albert Son M 4 1897 Hindon, Wiltshire
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ErikaH
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30 Dec 2013 10:18 |
It would appear that 'your' John was actually EDWARD John............... 1891 census
Person: STEVENS, Frank Address: High Street, Hindon STEVENS, Annie Head Married F 26 1865 Wife Of An Agricultural Labourer Berwick St Leonard, Wiltshire VIEW STEVENS, Amy Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar Fonthill Gifford, Wiltshire VIEW STEVENS, Edward J Son M 7 1884 Scholar East Knoyle, Wiltshire VIEW STEVENS, Francis J Daughter F 4 1887 Scholar East Knoyle, Wiltshire VIEW STEVENS, Frank Son M 2 1889 East Knoyle, Wiltshire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MERE is the correct registration district for East Knoyle
Births Sep 1884 (>99%) Stevens Edward John Mere 5a 224
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ErikaH
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30 Dec 2013 13:27 |
Death Name: STEVENS, Edward J Registration district: Salisbury County: Wiltshire Year of registration: 1965 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death:81 Volume no: 7C Page no: 552
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mgnv
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30 Dec 2013 21:37 |
Reggie's 1911 (29 Dec 2013 22:18) says Ed & Annie marr 30y; 6 live births, all still living.
Wiltshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1881 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference STEVENS Edward HACKER Anne L Hindon, St John History Centre C43/1/117
http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi [Births in Mere have not been transcribed yet] Wiltshire Birth indexes for the years: Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference 1882 STEVENS Amy L Hindon History Centre HACKER HIN/7/316 1893 STEVENS Louie Hindon History Centre HACKER HIN/8/479 1897 STEVENS Albert L Hindon History Centre HACKER HIN/9/167 1898 STEVENS Alice A Hindon History Centre HACKER HIN/9/229
FreeBMD hits: 1882q2 Stevens Amy Louisa Tisbury 5a 217 1884q3 Stevens Edward John Mere 5a 224 1887q3 STEVENS Frances Jane Mere 5a 215 1889q3 Stevens Frank Mere 5a 213 1893q1 Stevens Louie Tisbury 5a 205 1897q1 Stevens Albert Leonard Tisbury 5a 197 1898q2 STEVENS Alice Agnes Tisbury 5a 197 [I think Alice is the d/o one of the following 2 marrs]
Wiltshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1897 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference STEVENS Henry HACKER Martha Hindon, St John History Centre C43/1/168 STEVENS William HACKER Lucy Hindon, St John History Centre C43/1/165
In 1911, Amy Louise Stevens, pob=Fonthill Gifford, is a 28 y o servant in the Pope h/h in Southampton. In 1911, Alfred Caddy is a 28 y o dairyman boarding in Totton just W of Southampton.
Wiltshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1911[q2] Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference STEVENS Amy L CADDY Alfred Berwick, St Leonard History Centre C101/1/36
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Linda
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31 Dec 2013 11:27 |
Thank you very much Reggie, patchem & mgnv. I see quite clearly now which John is mine. I am in awe of how much information you've been able to provide. Your help is very much appreciated Linda :-)
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ErikaH
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31 Dec 2013 11:30 |
Glad you found your way back........and that the info was helpful
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