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Samuel Curry - born 24th Feb 1854 died Fulham 1937

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TED

TED Report 3 Jan 2014 14:21

I am now in receipt of Caroline Amelia Curry's death Certificate which states she died at 13 Chipstead Street in the presence of her husband Samuel Curry which on the Certificate is spelt "Corry" and states he is a hotel clerk.

Death 14th Jan 1916
Registered 17th Jan 1916

The spelling on Samuel's application into Morden College and his Death Certificate and also the clarification of the grave from the North Sheen Cemetary all in my possession show the surname as "Curry"

Help

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Dec 2013 17:31

Gosh, if he was your mother's father then he was 63yrs old when she was born. Caroline can't have been her mother as she died the year before so who was her mother and what makes her think that Samuel was her father?

TED

TED Report 30 Dec 2013 10:42

Samuel Curry a widower entered Morden College in 1928 because of his reduced circumstances he may well have become a Hotel Clerk after he ran into difficulties from 1920 to 1923
I have a death Certificate that states he was a Master Linen Merchant aged 83 and All information I have gathered about him came directly from my mother - born 1917 who believed him to be her father but not mentioned on her birth certificate - her mother never marrying

I have documentary evidence transcribed from his own application into Morden College of his circumstances, giving in-depth information of his trading in London over 36 years. The document contained no evidence of children but mentions that he had two sisters.
I shall endeavour to obtain a marriage Certificate and also a copy of Caroline Curry's Death Certificate.

This is one big mystery

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 Dec 2013 09:15

If his wife was Caroline Amelia, then I would suggest that my 1906 marriage and 1911 census are the correct person.

Could be that the two Samuels are differant people, or maybe Samuel was married to Ellen but left her for Caroline and went on to marry her bigamously, lying slightly about his age to make himself a little younger.

I wouldn't want you to spend money on just my say, but you may want to invest in a couple of certificates to try and solve the mystery.
As you thilk his wife was Caroline Amelia, the I would start with the death certificate of Caroline Amelia Curry to see if death was registered by her husband, and then the 1906 marriage certificate to see if they give any more clues.

Catherine

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 30 Dec 2013 08:53

The marriage and 1911 Census posted by Catherine seems to be the correct one despite the fact Samuel is a Hotel Clerk....Possible Samuel had lost his business and eventually ended up living at Morden College
....
Morden College is a long-standing charity which has been providing residential care in Blackheath,
It was founded by philanthropist Sir John Morden in 1695 as a home for 'Poor Merchants"...

patchem

patchem Report 30 Dec 2013 08:30

Could you tell us how you got to your Samuel Curry?

You can see that from what we have found we are slightly perplexed as we cannot see Samuel as a linen merchant together with Caroline but with Ellen, and Samuel with Caroline as a clerk.

Do you know of any children of his, and have you got or applied for the death certificates of those 2 in the grave?

Thank-you

TED

TED Report 30 Dec 2013 06:30

The Samuel Curry I am interested in was born 24.2.1854
Died Fulham Hospital 26th October 1937 after a road accident
Buried North Sheen Cemetery 29th October 1937 also interred in the grave is Caroline Amelia Curry buried 19th January 1916 aged 51 which I assume is his wife
He was a resident of Morden College from 1928 until his death in 1937 previously living in Parsons Green London

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Dec 2013 23:22

Yes, I saw that death too and am thinking that something doesn't add up here??

We need a bit of feed back from Barbara.

patchem

patchem Report 29 Dec 2013 22:59

?
Samuel Cory
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1903
Age at Death: 48
Registration District: Romford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 235

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Dec 2013 22:53

This is the 1901 family in 1911:-

CORRY, Ellen Maria Head Widow F 52 1859 Toome Bridge Co Antrim Resident VIEW
CORRY, Eleanor Louisa Daughter Single F 28 1883 Insurance Clerk Belfast Ireland Resident VIEW
CORRY, Mary Daughter Single F 26 1885 Lady Secretary College Belfast Ireland Resident VIEW
CORRY, Mabel Hope Daughter Single F 18 1893 At Home London Kilburn VIEW
CORRY, Cyril Montague Son Single M 15 1896 College London Paddington VIEW
CORRY, Frederick Wilberforce Son M 12 1899 School London Shepherds Bush VIEW

RG number: RG14 Piece: 9901 Reference: RG14PN9901 RG78PN521B RD191 SD2 ED52 SN182 Registration District: Romford Sub District: Ilford Enumeration District: 52 Parish: Ilford Address: 15 Airthrie Road Goodmayes Ilford County: Essex

Ellen is noted as widow???

patchem

patchem Report 29 Dec 2013 22:53

He is a linen commission agent here:
1891 England Census
Samuel J Corry Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Corry
Gender: Male Where born: Belfast, Ireland
Civil Parish: Willesden Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration District: Hendon Sub-registration District: Willesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 15a Piece: 1045 Folio: 61 Page Number: 35
Samuel J Corry 36
Ellen Corry 30
Walter C Corry 12 Belfast
Eleanor L Corry 10 Belfast
Mary Corry 8 Belfast
Samuel Corry 6 Belfast
John Corry 5 Belfast
Richard Corry 3 Belfast
Mabel Corry 9/12 Kilburn, Middlesex
Elizabeth Wilson 19
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1045; Folio: 61; Page: 35; GSU Roll: 6096155.

patchem

patchem Report 29 Dec 2013 22:47

1901 family in 1911:
1911 England Census
Ellen Maria Corry Age in 1911: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female
Birth Place: Toomebridge, Resident, Antrim
Civil Parish: Ilford County/Island: Essex Country: England
Street Address: 15 Airthrie Road, Goodmayes, Ilford
Marital Status: Widowed
Registration District: Romford
Registration District Number: 191 Sub-registration District: Ilford
ED, institution, or vessel: 52 Household Schedule Number: 182 Piece: 9901
Ellen Maria Corry 52 widowed married32 years
Eleanor Louisa Corry 28
Mary Corry 26
Mabel Hope Corry 18
Cyril Montague Corry 15
Frederick Wilberforce Corry 12
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 9901; Schedule Number: 182.

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 29 Dec 2013 22:42

Name: Samuel Curry
Birth: abt 1854
Death: Dec 1937 - Fulham, London, England

This looks like Samuel
What info. were you looking for please

patchem

patchem Report 29 Dec 2013 22:41

This is the linen merchant, with wife Ellen:
1901 England Census
Samuel Corry Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male Spouse: Ellen Corry
Birth Place: Ireland
Civil Parish: East Ham Town: East Ham County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Samuel Corry 47 Ireland
Ellen Corry 42 Ireland
Eleanor Corry 21 Ireland
Mary Corry 20 Ireland
Samuel Corry 17 Ireland
Richard Corry 13 Ireland
Mabel H Corry 10 Tilburn
Cyril Corry 5 Paddington
Frederick Corry 3 Paddington

Catherine

Catherine Report 29 Dec 2013 22:32

This looks to be the Caroline who died in 1916, Fulham.
Husband is called Samuel but he was born in 1859, Ireland and was a Hotel Clerk:-

CARRY, Samuel Head Married M 52 1859 Hotel Clerk Antrim Ireland Resident VIEW
CARRY, Caroline Wife Married5 years F 46 1865 London Deptford VIEW
HOWE, John Boarder Single M 21 1890 Bank Clerk Islanedloed Wales

RG number: RG14 Piece: 355 Reference: RG14PN355 RG78PN11 RD3 SD5 ED18 SN84 Registration District: Fulham Sub District: South Fulham Enumeration District: 18 Parish: Fulham Address: 13 Chipstead Street Fulham S W County: London

...................................................

Deaths Mar 1916 (>99%)
Corry Caroline A 51 Fulham 1a 432

(makes date of birth 1865)
...............................................................

As she has middle name A, then this looks to be the marriage to go with above couple:-

Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)
BAKER Caroline Amelia Kensington 1a 285
Corry Samuel Kensington 1a 285
Fox Mabel Helen Kensington 1a 285
Trevor Charles William A Kensington 1a 285

.................................................................................

When were your Samuel and Caroline married?
If this is not them, then what else do you know, when did they marry and did they have any children????

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Dec 2013 21:56

You seem to know a lot already..........what do you actually hope for?

TED

TED Report 29 Dec 2013 21:47

Any information on this person would be appreciated. He was a Linen Merchant starting his trade with A & S Henry & Co Belfast - At the time of his death by accident he lived at Morden College, Blackheath. He was a widower having lost his wife Caroline in 1916