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AnnCardiff...Thank you very much for the information.
It confirms what we suspected.
Enjoy the festivities and Bestest for 2014...
:-) :-) :-)

Kirk session records are held by the NAS (or whatever they're called now).

A catalogue search at:
http://www.nas.gov.uk/onlineCatalogue/
gets:
Simple search for catalogue records where any field contains all the words premnay kirk sessions, including undated records
Reference Title Date Access status
CH2/293 Records of Oyne Kirk Session 1663-1977 This record is Open.

A browse reveals there are no Premnay kirk sessions per se:

CH2/305 Records of Portsoy Kirk Session 1875-1955
CH2/306 Records of Prestonkirk Kirk Session 1691-1958

although why I get a hit in Oyne (the adjacent parish to the E), I couldn't say.

Name: Adam Moir
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1891
Gender: Male
Age: 79
Birthplace: Aberdenshire
Registration District: Premnay
County: Aberdeenshire
Birth Year (Estimated): 1812
GS Film number: 208687

Agnes Moir
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 6 April 1848 PREMNAY,ABERDEEN,SCOTLAND
father: William Moir
mother: Jean Couts

George Moir
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
christening: 23 September 1818 PREMNAY,ABERDEEN,SCOTLAND
father: Adam Moir
mother: Dorothy Mellis

Adam Moir
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
christening: 11 July 1811 PREMNAY,ABERDEEN,SCOTLAND
father: Adam Moir
mother: Dorrethy Mellis

Alexander Moir
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
christening: 11 October 1816 PREMNAY,ABERDEEN,SCOTLAND
father: Adam Moir
mother: Dorothy Mellis

Charles Moir
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
christening: 18 March 1824 PREMNAY,ABERDEEN,SCOTLAND
father: Adam Moir
mother: Dorothy Mellis

Premnay Genealogy Resources & Parish Registers ...
forebears.co.uk/scotland/aberdeenshire/premnay Cached
See All Birth & Baptism Records for Premnay. ... Premnay parish is situated on the north side of Bennochie hill, which is chiefly composed of granite.

Premnay, Scotland profile - ePodunk - ePodunk UK - Profiling ...
uk.epodunk.com/profiles/scotland/premnay/3014454.html Cached
old Premnay Parish Church: Premnay Kirkton (graveyard) Send us your Premnay photos: ... Parish records search - International Genealogical Index, Church of LDS

Premnay, Aberdeenshire, Scotland | Learn | FamilySearch.org
familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Premnay,_Aberdeenshire... Cached
Parish #234. This is a guide to the history and major genealogical records of Scotland as they pertain to the parish of Premnay. To learn more about how to use these ...

London Family History Centre > Film Catalogue > Scotland ...
www.londonfhc.org/...p=Scotland,Scotland,Aberdeen,Premnay... Cached
Premnay, Aberdeen, Scotland - Church records: Title: Parish registers for Premnay, 1718-1854: Authors: Church of Scotland. Parish Church of Premnay (Aberdeenshire)

Premnay, Scotland, Grampian: Genealogy, Ancestry, Family ...
en.geneanet.org/history-city-town-county-village/premnay... Cached
Premnay: Ancestry, Genealogy, Old Postcards, Archive, Family History, Vital Records, Local History, Parish Registers, Coat of Arms, Photographs

Premnay Parish Poorhouse - Workhouse
www.workhouses.org.uk/Premnay Cached
Premnay, Aberdeenshire. Premnay had established a parochial poorhouse or almshouse by the mid 1860s. It was locally administered rather than operating as a statutory ...

The National Records of Scotland, H.M. General Register House, 2 Princes Street, Edinburgh, EH1 3YY; tel +44 (0) 131 535 1314; email: [email protected]

Historical records - Church of Scotland
www.churchofscotland.org.uk/.../historical_records Cached
Information about tracing birth, marriage, death and baptism certificates, burial records, historical details about ministers, records of kirk sessions, presbyteries ...

Pre-1855 marriage record transcripts and indexes
www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/pdf/Pre-1855%20marriages.pdf
Pre-1855 marriage record transcripts and indexes ... Kirkgunzeon kirk session records: extracts (1700-1900) and MT 053.001 . marriages (1703-1714)

OPR census records family tree information research ...
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?578 Cached
Some Kirk Session records can be found on the microfilms of OPRs. The Kirk Session was composed of the minister and elders of the parish church, ...

TalkingScot.com • View topic - Kirk Session Records.....
www.talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4886&start=0 Cached
Kirk Session Records are ideal for finding illegitimate births It is especially worth while if you do not have a father's name. I had one Christian Davidson had a ...

Scotland Poor Law Records and Genealogy Research
www.exploregenealogy.co.uk/ScotlandPoorLaw.html Cached
It’s possible to find kirk session records dating back to the 1600s, but from the 1700s onwards, many more still exist (the same is true for heritors’ minutes).

GENUKI: Scotland Topics - Church Records
www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ChurchRecords.html Cached
Information about surviving pre-1855 Church of Scotland parish registers will also be ... Most Kirk Session records are held in the National Archives of Scotland ...


Death and burial records indexes - ScotlandsPeople Centre
www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/pdf/bdm-transcripts.pdf
Charge of moneys received for the ... transcribed from the kirk session records by Graham ... Transcriptions of the surviving pre-1855 death records for the ...

Thanks Ann...

Really wanted the Premnay Kirk Session Records so that father of James Moir Fordyce could be verified....His mother was definately Jean Moir who later married Alexander Cruikshank..
Suspect father was a George Fordyce...but Kirk session records would possibly verify this.....It's the usual story...records before 1855 are difficult to obtain as they were recorded in Parish Records.

Bestest,
Ian

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The Premnay OPRs exist for yourt time period - see:
http://www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/pdf/list-of-oprs-168to249.pdf

More generally, for places outside of Aberdeenshire - see:
http://www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/research/list-of-oprs.html

James's death:

1918 FORDYCE JAMES MOIR M 80 HUNTLY /ABERDEEN 202/00 0052

Aha! I see! His parents were Jane Moir and George Fordyce, both deceased.

1871 Scotland Census about James Fordyce
Name: James Fordyce
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Kinnethmont, Aberdeenshire
Registration number: 199
Registration District: Glass
Civil Parish: Glass
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Milton Of Apuanly
Occupation: Farm Overseer
ED: 3
Household Schedule Number: 19
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1871_38
Household Members:
Name Age
James Fordyce 32
William Mark 63
Elizabeth Cruickshank 57

1861 Scotland Census about James Fordyce
Name: James Fordyce
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Kinnethmont, Aberdeenshire
Registration number: 212
Registration District: Kinnethmont
Civil Parish: Kinnethmont
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Farm Woodside
Occupation: Ploughman
ED: 2
Household Schedule Number: 17
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1861_29
Household Members:
Name Age
John Cooper 48
Isabella Cooper 41
Peter Cooper 11
James Cooper 9
John Cooper 7
William Cooper 4
Ann George 28
James Fordyce 22

Death:
1905 CRUICKSHANK JAME MOIR F 90 HUNTLY /ABERDEEN 202/00 0035

1901 Scotland Census about Jane Cruikshank
Name: Jane Cruikshank
Age: 86
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Premnay, Aberdeenshire
Registration number: 202
Registration District: Huntly
Civil Parish: Huntly
Town: Huntly
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Richmond Road 45 Princes Street
ED: 4
Household Schedule Number: 159
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1901_68
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Cruikshank 86

1881 Scotland Census about Jane Cruickshank
Name: Jane Cruickshank
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Premnay, Aberdeenshire
Registration number: 202
Registration District: Huntly
Civil Parish: Huntly
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 18 Old Road
Occupation: Ag. Labs Widow
ED: 8
Household Schedule Number: 81
Line: 1
Roll: cssct1881_60
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Cruickshank 66
Dorethy Cruickshank 36
Alexander Cruickshank 11
Jane Cruickshank 3 Mo

1871 Scotland Census about Jane Cruikshank
Name: Jane Cruikshank
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Alexander Cruikshank
Gender: Female
Where born: Premnay, Aberdeenshire
Registration number: 202
Registration District: Huntly
Civil Parish: Huntly
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Causewayend
ED: 7
Household Schedule Number: 7
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1871_38
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Cruikshank 57
Jane Cruikshank 56
Alexander Cruickshank 20
Jane C Pirie 6

1861 Scotland Census about Alex Cruickshank
Name: Alex Cruickshank
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jane Cruickshank
Gender: Male
Where born: Drumblade, Aberdeenshire
Registration number: 202
Registration District: Huntly
Civil Parish: Huntly
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Causewayend
Occupation: Labourer And Pauper
ED: 7
Household Schedule Number: 9
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1861_29
Household Members:
Name Age
Alex Cruickshank 47
Jane Cruickshank 46
Margt Cruickshank 57
Jane Cruickshank 12
Alexr Cruickshank 10
Sarah Cruickshank 9
William Cruickshank 6
Ann Cruickshank 4

1851 Scotland Census about Adam Cruickshank
Name: Adam Cruickshank
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Alexander Cruickshank
Mother's Name: Jano Cruickshank
Gender: Male
Where born: Inverury, aberdeensh
Parish Number: 264
Civil Parish: Maryculter
County: Kincardineshire
Address: Cockley
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 3
Page: 3 (click to see others on page)
Household Schedule Number: 10
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1851_56
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Cruickshank 37
Jano Cruickshank 35
Adam Cruickshank 9
Margaret Cruickshank 7
Dorothy Cruickshank 5
Jane Cruickshank 2
Cruickshank 1 Mo
George Moie 32

1841 Scotland Census about Jean Cruickshank
Name: Jean Cruickshank
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Aberdeenshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Inverurie
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Constitution Street
Parish Number: 204
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexr Crickshank 25
Jean Moir 25
Jean Cruickshank 25
Adam Cruickshank 2 Mo