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Helen Lumsden Keith (c1871)

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Dec 2013 10:01

Yes, the 1901 fits

MILNE, Robert H Head Married M 32 1869 Shop Porter Crimond, Aberdeenshire
MILNE, Helen L Wife Married F 30 1871 London
MILNE, Robert Son M 12 1889 Scholar Aberdeen
MILNE, John Son M 10 1891 Scholar Aberdeen
MILNE, William Son M 9 1892 Scholar Aberdeen
MILNE, George Son M 4 1897 Aberdeen
MILNE, Edward Son M 2 1899 Aberdeen

Piece: 168 Folio: 13A Page: 2
Registration District: St Machar
Civil Parish: Aberdeen

Address: 119, Chapel Street, Aberdeen County: Aberdeenshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Dec 2013 09:56

Robert - does this info fit what you have for your Helen?

Helen Lumsden Keith Milne in entry for William Keith Milne, "Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"

Name: William Keith Milne
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 16 Aug 1891
Birthplace: St Nicholas, Aberdeen, Scotland
Father's Name: Robert Hutchison Milne
Mother's Name: Helen Lumsden Keith Milne

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01885-5
System Origin: Scotland-EASy
GS Film number: 255093
Reference ID: v 168-1 p 400

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Dec 2013 09:29

Where have you looked, Robert?

Did you use freebmd?

EDIT As her birth is on freebmd, I guess not.

If you get a copy of the cert, you'll have FACTS...................

Did you look for her in 1881?

patchem

patchem Report 22 Dec 2013 09:05

She is in 3 public member trees on ancestry.
Mother quoted as Jane Christina Miller in one of them.

patchem

patchem Report 22 Dec 2013 08:58

?
1871 Scotland Census
Rebecca Robertson Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship: Boarder Gender: Female
Where born: Nigg, kincardinesh
Registration number: 266
Registration District: Nigg Civil Parish: Nigg County: Kincardineshire
Address: Licenser House Altens Road
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 4 Household Schedule Number: 86 Line: 22 Roll: CSSCT1871_46
Andrew Wood 46
Mary Wood 47
Rebecca Robertson 10
Jean Robertson 8
Elizabeth Robertson 6
Source Citation: Parish: Nigg; ED: 4; Page: 19; Line: 22; Roll: CSSCT1871_46.

Gee

Gee Report 22 Dec 2013 08:56


1881 Scotland Census

Name:Rebecca Robertson Or Keith

Age:20

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1861

Relationship:Daughter

Father's Name:
William T Keith

Mother's Name:
Jane Keith

Gender:Female

Where born:Nigg, Kincardineshire

Registration number:168/1

Registration District:St Nicholas

Civil Parish:Aberdeen St Nicholas

County:Aberdeenshire

Address:13

Occupation:Formerly House Maid (Dom:Serv)

ED:64

Household Schedule Number:87

Line:21

Roll:cssct1881_51

Household Members:


Name

Age

William T Keith 53
Jane Keith 39
Rebecca Robertson Or Keith 20
Mary A Robertson Or Keith 15
Helen L Keith 10
Florence J Keith 8
John J Keith 6
Wm T Keith Jr. 2
John R Moncur 6 months Grandson

patchem

patchem Report 22 Dec 2013 08:55

Just for further reference, as presumably you have this:
1861 Scotland Census
Jean Robertson Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : William Robertson
Gender: Female Where born: Angus, pathshire corpess
Registration number: 266 Registration District: Nigg
Civil Parish: Nigg County: Kincardineshire
Address: 4 Cove Village
ED: 3 Household Schedule Number: 4 Line: 12 Roll: CSSCT1861_35
William Robertson 37
Jean Robertson 20
Rebecca Robertson 7 Mo
Margaret Miller 12 sister Aberdeen
Source Citation: Parish: Nigg; ED: 3; Page: 1; Line: 12; Roll: CSSCT1861_35.

Gee

Gee Report 22 Dec 2013 08:53

Jane was born a 'Miller' looking at the census records



1861 Scotland Census


Name:
Rebecca Robertson

Age:7 Mo

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1860

Relationship:Daughter

Father's Name:William Robertson

Mother's Name:Jean Robertson

Gender:Female

Where born:Nigg, Kincardineshire

Registration number:266

Registration District:Nigg

Civil Parish:Nigg

County:Kincardineshire

Address:4 Cove Village

ED:3

Household Schedule Number:4

Line:13

Roll:CSSCT1861_35

Household Members:


Name

Age

William Robertson 37
Jean Robertson 20
Rebecca Robertson 7 Mo
Margaret Miller 12 <<Sister


patchem

patchem Report 22 Dec 2013 08:45

Just putting 1881 for reference, looks like same Jane as 1871? :
1881 Scotland Census
William T Keith Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jane Keith
Gender: Male Where born: Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire
Registration number: 168/1
Registration District: St Nicholas Civil Parish: Aberdeen St Nicholas
County: Aberdeenshire Address: 13
Occupation: Bookseller
ED: 64 Household Schedule Number: 87 Line: 19 Roll: cssct1881_51
William T Keith 53
Jane Keith 39 Cupar Angus, Forfarshire
Rebecca Robertson Or Keith 20 Nigg, Kincardineshire
Mary A Robertson Or Keith 15 Nigg, Kincardineshire
Helen L Keith 10 England
Florence J Keith 8 Edinburgh, Mid Lothian
John J Keith 6 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Wm T Keith Jr. 2 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
John R Moncur 6 Mo grnson Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire
Source Citation: Parish: Aberdeen St Nicholas; ED: 64; Page: 17; Line: 19; Roll: cssct1881_51.

patchem

patchem Report 22 Dec 2013 08:30

As you know of her existence, could you tell us how you worked back to her, and whether you found her in any censuses, or marriage or death?

Thank-you

mgnv

mgnv Report 22 Dec 2013 03:56

As I read the 1871 names, the first two (on RG10/377/33/9) are William S Keath, Jane C Keath, and the 2 daurs & boarder are Mary A Keith, Ellen C Keith & John A Donnelly.

I would suggest you get Mary A's Scottish b.cert - it should name the parents with the time & place of their marr.
Then, get that marr cert - it should name the couple's parents.

I'm totally confused about Jane's subsequent prior marriage. Did this happen before her marr to Wm Keith, or after?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Dec 2013 01:37

Her birth is listed on FreeBMD

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Dec 2013 01:31

1871 possible

Name: Ellen C Keith Age: 1 Month Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Williams Sekeath Mother's Name: Jana C Sekeath Gender: Female Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Ely Rents and Hatton Garden and Saffron Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: London Country: England
Registration District: Holborn
Sub-registration District: Saffron Hill ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household Schedule Number: 68 Piece: 377 Folio: 33 Page Number: 10 Household Members:
Name Age
Williams Sekeath 43 born Scotland
Jana C Sekeath 29
Mary A Keith 4
Ellen C Keith 1 Month
John A Honnelly 22

Class: RG10; Piece: 377; Folio: 33; Page: 10; GSU roll: 824616

William is a stationer

Robert

Robert Report 22 Dec 2013 00:33

Hi looking for any info on Helen Lumsden Keith born c1871. Place of birth i think was England pos London. Father William T Keith born c1828 in Aberdeen and occupation was a bookseller. Mother i believe to be Helen Lumsden , she had possibly remarried, previous spouse Phillip. Father William T Keith also remarried later to Jean/Jane Miller in 1879,. She( Jean/Jane ) had subsequently had prior marriage, spouse Robertson.
Finding it really difficult to find Helen's place of birth as well as anything on her mother.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Rob.