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Hi,
yes Ellen did marry again. You are right it was to Howkins.
Regards the birth it could be possible that George was not the given name. Maybe George was actually Henry?????? and after his dad passed people called him little George in memory of is poor old dad and it just stuck. Either way it is troublesome & annoying! Birth's should be relatively straight forward to find........................I Wish.
Thanx
Shirley

Did Ellen remarry??

But still no George - unless Wm Henry has become George????? George maintains an age on census that makes his birth 1861/2, which was Wm Henry's year. Did he have a third name that wasn't on the registration, but then took his dead father's name at some point??

Civil Registration event: Marriage

Name: HARBAGE, Ellen
Registration district: Stourbridge
County: Worcestershire
Year of registration: 1874
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 6C
Page no: 302
MarriageFinder: Ellen Harbage married one of the following people:

HARRIS, Albert
HOWKINS, Daniel <<<<<<
WOODHOUSE, Ann Matilda

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1881 census transcription details for: 53, Communication Row, Birmingham

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 2978
Folio: 84
Page: 33
Reg. District: Birmingham
Sub District: St Thomas
Parish: Birmingham
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 53, Communication Row, Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HOWKINS, Daniel Head Married M 53 1828 Painter House Myton in Dunsmore, Warwickshire
HOWKINS, Elenor Wife Married F 46 1835 Old Swinford, Worcestershire
HOWKINS, Daniel Son Single M 16 1865 Warehouseman Bham, Warwickshire
HOWKINS, Albert Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Stourbridge, Worcestershire
HARBAGE, William Stepson Single M 19 1862 Combined Brass Worker Stourbridge, Worcestershire
HARBAGE, Ellen Step Daughter Single F 18 1863 No Occupation Stourbridge, Worcestershire
PACKER, Edward Boarder Married M 42 1839 General Labourer Brays Norton, Oxfordshire

Could George have been George William, born a bit earlier than thought
Births Dec 1859 (>99%)
HARBAGE George William Stourbridge 6c 196

No, looks like this one could have died Jun Qtr 1860 Stourbridge 6C 82

Henry and Elizabeth both born Stourbridge RD.

Civil Registration event: Birth

Name: HARBAGE, William Henry
Registration district: Stourbridge
County: Worcestershire
Year of registration: 1861
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 6C
Page no: 168
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Civil Registration event: Birth

Name: HARBAGE, Ellen Elizabeth
Registration district: Stourbridge
County: Worcestershire
Year of registration: 1863
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 6C
Page no: 189

1871 census transcription details for: Ball Yard, Stourbridge

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 3022
Folio: 42
Page: 34
Reg. District: Stourbridge
Sub District: Stourbridge
Parish: Stourbridge
Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Ball Yard, Stourbridge
County: Worcestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HARBAGE, Ellen Head F 35 1836 Worcestershire
HARBAGE, Henry Son M 9 1862 Worcestershire
HARBAGE, Elizabeth Daughter F 7 1864 Worcestershire

Present at George Harbage death 1868 - Mary Ann Shields ( mum-in-law ).

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Civil Registration event: Marriage

Name: HARBAGE, George
Registration district: Stourbridge
County: Worcestershire
Year of registration: 1858
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 6C
Page no: 135
MarriageFinder: George Harbage married one of the following people:

NEWMAN, Mary Ann
SHIELDS, Ellen <<<<<
WELLINGS, Henry

Hi,
Ellen Harbage nee Shields. That's the family.

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1861 census transcription details for: 11, Ball Yard, Court Road, Stourbridge

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 2065
Folio: 99
Page: 25
Reg. District: Stourbridge
Sub District: 2 Stourbridge
Parish: Stourbridge
Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: St Marys Oldswinford
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 11, Ball Yard, Court Road, Stourbridge
County: Worcestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HERBAGE, George Head Married M 30 1831 Moulder Oldford, Worcestershire
HERBAGE, Ellen Wife Married F 25 1836 Moulder Wife Oldford, Worcestershire

Original says b Oldswinford

Yes, that is the couple.
Jenny Harbage nee Jones.
The next worse surname to research next to Smith!

Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
Name: George Harbage (Chandelier Maker)
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1861
Marriage Date: 28 Oct 1888
Marriage Age: 27
Marriage Place: Harborne, St Peter, England
Spouse: Jenny Jones
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Marriage Age: 25
Father: George Harbage (I Moulder?) (Deceased)
Spouse's Father: Thomas Jones
(Abode for both, Metchley Lane, Harborne)

(as 1911 says Married 23yrs, is this above?)

Chris :)

edits (snap Shirley!)

Hi,
father's name was also George, an iron moulder who died Dec 1868 age 40 - Stourbridge. Father's name is on the marriage details 28 Oct 1888 i.e Father George Harbage (deceased).

??
Bromsgove RD covers Pedmore

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Dec 1863 (>99%)
HARBAGE George Bromsgrove 6c 381

Is this the "missing" 1871 census. I see that Oldswinford and Pedmore are both part of Stourbridge

1871 census transcription details for: Stourbridge Road Near Turnpike Old Swinford, Pedmore

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 3074
Folio: 6
Page: 5
Reg. District: Bromsgrove
Sub District: Bellbroughton
Parish: Pedmore
Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Stourbridge Road Near Turnpike Old Swinford, Pedmore
County: Worcestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HARBAGE, John Head M 43 1828 Worcestershire <<<<<<Oldswinford
HARBAGE, Matilda Wife F 40 1831 Worcestershire <<<<<Stourbridge
HARBAGE, John Son M 14 1857 Worcestershire <<<<<Oldswinford
HARBAGE, Matilda Daughter F 12 1859 Worcestershire <<<<<<Pedmore (plus all below)
HARBAGE, Clara Daughter F 9 1862 Worcestershire
HARBAGE, George Son M 7 1864 Worcestershire
HARBAGE, Alice Daughter F 5 1866 Worcestershire
HARBAGE, Harry Son M 3 1868 Worcestershire
HARBAGE, Charles Son M 0 1871 Worcestershire

In 1891 he was born in Worcester, Stourbridge so maybe this is him in 1871

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Hi,
the needle maker yes. Could be him he worked with brass according to the 1911 Census.
Of course he could have been a bigamist and had two families!!!!
Afraid George may remain a mystery.
Thanks
Shirley

Possibly Margee's Canadian visitor
1871 census transcription details for: Regent Street, Loughborough

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 3257
Folio: 17
Page: 27
Reg. District: Loughborough
Sub District: Loughborough
Parish: Loughborough
Enum. District: 17
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Regent Street, Loughborough
County: Leicestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HARBIDGE, Charles Head M 43 1828 Worcestershire
HARBIDGE, Mary Wife F 46 1825 Leicestershire
HARBIDGE, Charles J Son M 15 1856 Leicestershire
HARBIDGE, Arthur Son M 13 1858 Leicestershire
HARBIDGE, George H Son M 10 1861 Leicestershire
HARBIDGE, Ernest L Son M 6 1865 Leicestershire

Possible but says he's a tourist heading to Oak(something?) Ontario. There is an Oakville, Ontario.

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about George H Harbidge Name: George H Harbidge
Gender: Male
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Date of Arrival: 14 Jun 1914
Vessel: Laurentic
Search Ship Database: View the 'Laurentic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4810

Surely he'd be too old to be a casualty in WW1?

Hi,
yes I looked at the war dead. The gentleman that died in Iran does not have an age listed, but George would have to have been about 54 yrs by 1917.
Jane Harbage did not mention him again..............not the way to treat a war hero.

thanks
Shirley