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The absent husband; George Harbage

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Shirley

Shirley Report 18 Dec 2013 13:43

On the 1911 Census George Harbage age 49 a brass worker is at home ( 99 Ruston St, Ladywood, Birmingham, Warks ) with wife Jane and family. By 1920 Jane is living on her own bringing up the kids. She never talks about him, even to the children. What became of George?????
Shirley

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Dec 2013 13:51

Try looking for info using freebmd

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Dec 2013 14:08

Son Wilfred married in 1928 George is not a witness nor shown as deceased but Wilfred might not have been asked the question

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 18 Dec 2013 14:10


Registration event: Death


Name: HARBAGE, George
Unit:Warwickshire Regiment
Rank:Private
Number:17964
Year: 1917
Volume : I.50 Page: 211 Record source: GRO War Death Army Other Ranks (1914 to 1921)

EDIT

THIS WAS THE GUY ABOVE SO MAYBE NOT THE RIGHT PERSON

Memorial Scroll [?]

Purchase scroll


Name: George HARBAGE
Rank: PRIVATE
Initials: G
Birthplace:
Place of residence: Chacombe, Oxon
Enlisted: Kineton, Warwicks Regiment, Corps etc.: Royal Warwickshire Regiment Battalion etc.: 9th Battalion.
Number: 17964
Date died: 8 November 1917
How died: Died Theatre of war: Mesopotamia Supplementary Notes:

Shirley

Shirley Report 18 Dec 2013 14:15

My understanding is that wife Jane never talked about him ever again. The children Wilfred , Leonard etc did not ever see him ever again or knew what happened to him. George was born Oldswinford in abt 1863 ( cannot find his birth ). He is also not on the 1871 Census and I cannot find his death. Beginning to think he emigrated!
Shirley

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Dec 2013 14:17

Name: George Harbage
Residence: Chacombe, Oxon
Death Date: 8 Nov 1917
Death Location: Mesopotamia
Enlistment Location: Kineton, Warwicks
Rank: Private Regiment: Royal Warwickshire Regiment
Battalion: 9th Battalion Number: 17964
Type of Casualty: Died Theatre of War: Asiatic Theatres

Shirley

Shirley Report 18 Dec 2013 14:20

Hi,
yes I looked at the war dead. The gentleman that died in Iran does not have an age listed, but George would have to have been about 54 yrs by 1917.
Jane Harbage did not mention him again..............not the way to treat a war hero.

thanks
Shirley

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Dec 2013 14:20

Surely he'd be too old to be a casualty in WW1?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Dec 2013 14:26

Possible but says he's a tourist heading to Oak(something?) Ontario. There is an Oakville, Ontario.

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about George H Harbidge Name: George H Harbidge
Gender: Male
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Date of Arrival: 14 Jun 1914
Vessel: Laurentic
Search Ship Database: View the 'Laurentic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4810

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Dec 2013 14:33

Possibly Margee's Canadian visitor
1871 census transcription details for: Regent Street, Loughborough

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 3257
Folio: 17
Page: 27
Reg. District: Loughborough
Sub District: Loughborough
Parish: Loughborough
Enum. District: 17
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Regent Street, Loughborough
County: Leicestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HARBIDGE, Charles Head M 43 1828 Worcestershire
HARBIDGE, Mary Wife F 46 1825 Leicestershire
HARBIDGE, Charles J Son M 15 1856 Leicestershire
HARBIDGE, Arthur Son M 13 1858 Leicestershire
HARBIDGE, George H Son M 10 1861 Leicestershire
HARBIDGE, Ernest L Son M 6 1865 Leicestershire

Shirley

Shirley Report 18 Dec 2013 14:36

Hi,
the needle maker yes. Could be him he worked with brass according to the 1911 Census.
Of course he could have been a bigamist and had two families!!!!
Afraid George may remain a mystery.
Thanks
Shirley

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 18 Dec 2013 14:37

In 1891 he was born in Worcester, Stourbridge so maybe this is him in 1871

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Person: HARBAGE, George Address: Stourbridge Road Near Turnpike Old Swinford, Pedmore
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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image
HARBAGE, John Head M 43 1828 Worcestershire VIEW
HARBAGE, Matilda Wife F 40 1831 Worcestershire VIEW
HARBAGE, John Son M 14 1857 Worcestershire VIEW
HARBAGE, Matilda Daughter F 12 1859 Worcestershire VIEW
HARBAGE, Clara Daughter F 9 1862 Worcestershire VIEW
HARBAGE, George Son M 7 1864 Worcestershire VIEW
HARBAGE, Alice Daughter F 5 1866 Worcestershire VIEW
HARBAGE, Harry Son M 3 1868 Worcestershire VIEW
HARBAGE, Charles Son M 0 1871 Worcestershire VIEW Piece: 3074 Folio: 6 Page: 5 Registration District: Bromsgrove Civil Parish: Pedmore Municipal Borough: Address: Stourbridge Road Near Turnpike Old Swinford, Pedmore County: Worcestershire refine search back to 1871 census search resultsBack to all search results
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greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Dec 2013 14:43

Is this the "missing" 1871 census. I see that Oldswinford and Pedmore are both part of Stourbridge

1871 census transcription details for: Stourbridge Road Near Turnpike Old Swinford, Pedmore

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 3074
Folio: 6
Page: 5
Reg. District: Bromsgrove
Sub District: Bellbroughton
Parish: Pedmore
Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Stourbridge Road Near Turnpike Old Swinford, Pedmore
County: Worcestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HARBAGE, John Head M 43 1828 Worcestershire <<<<<<Oldswinford
HARBAGE, Matilda Wife F 40 1831 Worcestershire <<<<<Stourbridge
HARBAGE, John Son M 14 1857 Worcestershire <<<<<Oldswinford
HARBAGE, Matilda Daughter F 12 1859 Worcestershire <<<<<<Pedmore (plus all below)
HARBAGE, Clara Daughter F 9 1862 Worcestershire
HARBAGE, George Son M 7 1864 Worcestershire
HARBAGE, Alice Daughter F 5 1866 Worcestershire
HARBAGE, Harry Son M 3 1868 Worcestershire
HARBAGE, Charles Son M 0 1871 Worcestershire

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Dec 2013 14:46

??
Bromsgove RD covers Pedmore

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Dec 1863 (>99%)
HARBAGE George Bromsgrove 6c 381

Shirley

Shirley Report 18 Dec 2013 15:21

Hi,
father's name was also George, an iron moulder who died Dec 1868 age 40 - Stourbridge. Father's name is on the marriage details 28 Oct 1888 i.e Father George Harbage (deceased).

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 18 Dec 2013 15:23

Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
Name: George Harbage (Chandelier Maker)
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1861
Marriage Date: 28 Oct 1888
Marriage Age: 27
Marriage Place: Harborne, St Peter, England
Spouse: Jenny Jones
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Marriage Age: 25
Father: George Harbage (I Moulder?) (Deceased)
Spouse's Father: Thomas Jones
(Abode for both, Metchley Lane, Harborne)

(as 1911 says Married 23yrs, is this above?)

Chris :)

edits (snap Shirley!)

Shirley

Shirley Report 18 Dec 2013 15:28

Yes, that is the couple.
Jenny Harbage nee Jones.
The next worse surname to research next to Smith!

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Dec 2013 15:38

??
1861 census transcription details for: 11, Ball Yard, Court Road, Stourbridge

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 2065
Folio: 99
Page: 25
Reg. District: Stourbridge
Sub District: 2 Stourbridge
Parish: Stourbridge
Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: St Marys Oldswinford
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 11, Ball Yard, Court Road, Stourbridge
County: Worcestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HERBAGE, George Head Married M 30 1831 Moulder Oldford, Worcestershire
HERBAGE, Ellen Wife Married F 25 1836 Moulder Wife Oldford, Worcestershire

Original says b Oldswinford

Shirley

Shirley Report 18 Dec 2013 15:44

Hi,
Ellen Harbage nee Shields. That's the family.

greyghost

greyghost Report 18 Dec 2013 15:46

??

Civil Registration event: Marriage

Name: HARBAGE, George
Registration district: Stourbridge
County: Worcestershire
Year of registration: 1858
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 6C
Page no: 135
MarriageFinder: George Harbage married one of the following people:

NEWMAN, Mary Ann
SHIELDS, Ellen <<<<<
WELLINGS, Henry