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haffner hamilton

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christine

christine Report 13 Dec 2013 15:36

i am looking for france haffner hamilton, b 1826c in hanover square london, she married oswald moseley b 1817 cheshire, i now have his family but i cannot find hers, oswald and frances married and lived in congelton/ congleton cheshire where he was a solicitor..
any help always appreciated regards chis

safc

safc Report 13 Dec 2013 15:47

????

Name: Frances Harriet Hamilton
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 21 May 1830
Christening Place: St. Andrew, Holborn, Middlesex, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Charles Foster Hamilton
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Martha Hamilton
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04035-5
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 374359
Reference ID: v 23 p 373

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Dec 2013 15:48

Buy a copy of the marriage cert to find out if she knew her father

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1846
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference

MOSELEY Oswald HAMILTON Frances H Manchester Collegiate Church (later Manchester Cathedral) Manchester CATH/50/427

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Dec 2013 15:52

You seem to have asked before about this..........FMP alerts me to the fact that I have accessed records previously

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Dec 2013 15:55

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1333190

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Dec 2013 16:40

Ancestry shows the Baptism (see post by safc above) Father Charles Foster Hamilton is recorded as a Brushmaker of St Lukes Parish. Frances recorded as born 11 November 1829 1851 census transcription details for: 15, Greek Street, Saint Anne Soho, Westminster

If correct, then Frances is still at home in 1851 (1841 shows a Franc I s aged 18, b 1823)

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1510
Folio: 7
Page: 6
Reg. District: Strand
Sub District: Saint Anne Soho Westminster
Parish: Saint Anne Soho
Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Westminster
Address: 15, Greek Street, Saint Anne Soho, Westminster
County: Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HAMILTON, Charles T Head Married M 67 1784 Brushmaker St Mary Strandcc, London
HAMILTON, Martha Wife Married F 62 1789 Knightsbridge, Middlesex
HAMILTON, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 35 1816 St Lukes Old Street, Middlesex
MALPAS, Julia Daughter Widow F 28 1823 St Luke, Middlesex
HAMILTON, Frances Daughter Unmarried F 21 1830 St Anne Westminster, Middlesex
MALPAS, Edward H Grand Son Unmarried M 3 1848 Bloomsbury, Middlesex
SEWELL, John Apprentice Unmarried M 16 1835 Brushmaker App Somerleyton, Middlesex
SAYWELL, Jane Servant Unmarried F 17 1834 Servant Clerkenwell, Middlesex

Gee

Gee Report 13 Dec 2013 16:42

I've added to your other thread

It might be an idea to c/p all the info from here and add to that thread, then we don't repeat info

:-)

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Dec 2013 16:46

?? And a marriage 1858

Civil Registration event: Marriage

Name: HAMILTON, Frances Harriet
Registration district: Strand
County: London
Year of registration: 1858
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 608
MarriageFinder: Frances Harriet Hamilton married one of the following people:

LONGMAN, Robert John
WATKINS, Charles Adolphus
WALLIS, Martha
Transcriptions

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Dec 2013 16:54

About to copy and paste above info to other thread, following the line of safc's baptism posted above, showing this was not likely to be the person in question.

I see the correct details of the person in question have now been posted on that other thread so will leave this here but further refer to other thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1333190

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Dec 2013 16:56

The woman's second forename was NOT Harriet

And her MARRIAGE was in 1846 - posted above

Marriages Jun 1846 (>99%)
Hamilton Frances Haffner Manchester 20 492

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Dec 2013 18:28

The Lancs Marriage index you refer to in your first posting above only gives the initial H Reggie, not a full name. I'm very sorry that I tried working on safc's suggestion to "prove" that it was or wasn't the correct person. I thought the idea was to prove/disprove information, but no doubt I'm wrong about that too! And that's why I didn't bother copying it all over to the other thread. Enough said - hopefully.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Dec 2013 21:08

Name: Frances Hallner Hamilton
Age: Of Full Age
Marriage Date: 30 Apr 1846
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's Name: Daniel Molloy Hamilton, occ. Judge at Sierra Leone
Spouse's Name: Oswald Moseley
Spouse's Age: Of Full Age
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Moseley, Occ. Gentleman
Archive Roll: 712

Middle name is Haffner on image

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Dec 2013 21:27

?????

Name: Daniel Molloy Hamilton
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 11 May 1781
Christening Date: 10 Jun 1781
Christening Place: Westminster, London, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: Francis Martin Hamilton
Mother's Name: Elizabeth



Wonder if she gave her brother's name by mistake on her marriage registration?


Name: Daniel Molloy Hamilton
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 Nov 1825
Father's Name: Charles Foster Hamilton
Mother's Name: Martha Hamilton
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Andrew Holborn
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers



Perhaps not, he seems to have died.

Name: Daniel Molloy Hamilton
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1828
Burial Date: 3 Jan 1828
Age: 2 Years 6 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Parish or Poor Law Union: Finsbury St Luke
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Register

safc

safc Report 13 Dec 2013 21:28

Name: Daniel Molloy Hamilton
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 03 Nov 1825
Christening Place: SAINT ANDREW,HOLBORN,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1825
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Charles Foster Hamilton
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Martha
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P02083-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 374358
Reference ID:

safc

safc Report 13 Dec 2013 21:54

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=PDsIAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA369&lpg=PA369&dq=daniel+molley+hamilton&source=bl&ots=BpuJIpPS6V&sig=UphuZKIThwqJjBBmvVHEeDjxies&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_H-rUo7rEJOthQeQjIGABQ&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=daniel%20molley%20hamilton&f=false

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Dec 2013 22:24

Name: Louisa Hamilton
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 1 Feb 1819, b. 27 Dec 1818
Father's Name: Charles Foster Hamilton
Mother's Name: Martha Hamilton
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Andrew Holborn
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers
Abode: Banner Sq.


Name: Charles Hamilton
[User-submitted-comment]
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 4 Jan 1821, b. 4 dec. 1820
Father's Name: Charles Forter Hamilton
Mother's Name: Martha Hamilton
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Andrew Holborn
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers
Abode: Banner st. St. Lukes


Name: Judith Julia Hamilton
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 Sep 1822, b. 28 Aug 1822
Father's Name: Charles Foster Hamilton
Mother's Name: Martha Hamilton
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Andrew Holborn
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers
Abode: Banner Sq. St. Lukes


Name: Francis Frederic Hamilton
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 17 Mar 1824,b. 19 Feb. 1824
Father's Name: Charles Foster Hamilton
Mother's Name: Martha Hamilton
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Andrew Holborn
Borough: City of London
Register Type: Parish Registers
Abode: St. Lukes

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Dec 2013 22:35

Name: Judith Julia Hamilton
Spouse Name: Edward Malpas
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 Sep 1847
Parish: Westminster St Anne Soho
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Chas Foster Hamilton
Spouse Father: John Malpas
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Dec 2013 22:51

1841

Name: Francis Hamilton
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Anne Soho
Hundred: Westminster
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration District: Strand
Sub-registration District: St Anne Westminster
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 730
Book: 1
Folio: 6
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Hamilton 57 Brush Maker
Martha Hamilton 52
Eliza Hamilton 25 Ind.
Louisa Hamilton 22 Ind.
Charles Hamilton 20 Brush Maker
Julia Hamilton 17 Ind.
Francis Hamilton 18 Brush Maker
Charles Watkins 17 Ap. Brush Maker
Harriet Belcher 20 F.S.

All born in county

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 13 Dec 2013 22:57

1851

Name: Charles F Hamilton
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1784
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha Hamilton
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: St Mary le Strand, London, England

Civil Parish: St Anne Soho
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Strand
Sub-registration District: St Anne Soho
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 24
Piece: 1510
Folio: 7
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles F Hamilton 67
Martha Hamilton 62
Elizabeth Hamilton 35
Julia Malpas 28 Daughter, Widow
Frances Hamilton 21
Edward H Malpas 3 Grandson
John Sewell 16 App
Jane Saywell 17 Servant
William S Potter 46 Lodger
Archibald Paton 40 Visitor
Auguste F Dunnus 46 Lodger

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 Dec 2013 21:15

Deaths Sep 1856 HAMILTON Charles Forter Strand 1b 241

Deaths Sep 1863 HAMILTON Martha Strand 1b 324

Name: Martha Hamilton
Probate Date: 5 Dec 1863
Death Date: 8 Aug 1863
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: Principal Registry

The Will of Martha Hamilton late of 12 Greek Street, Soho widow died there. Will proved by James Liddon the younger of Bartholomew Close, book binder one of the executors. Effects under £100

1881

Name: James Liddon
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Louisa Liddon
Gender: Male
Where born: St Lukes, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Hornsey
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address: 69 Finsbury Pk Rd
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Bookbinder Manager

Registration District: Edmonton
Sub-registration District: Hornsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1376
Folio: 130
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
James Liddon 61
Louisa Liddon 62
Charles Liddon 31
William L. Liddon 23
Alfred P. Liddon 26
Eliza Hunt 18