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13 Dec 2013 03:27 |
I would like to find any information or descendants of my great Aunt Jane Rankine Coutts born in Falkirk Scotland in 1866 and married George Struthers in Porl Adelaide south Australia in 1899
I would greatly appreciate any information and thank you for your help
Elizabeth
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Gee
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13 Dec 2013 06:48 |
Hi
We need to know what info you already have and what you would like to know?
I can see from the marriage that her father was Charles, this looks like her in 1881
1881 Scotland Census
Name:Jane Coutts
Age:15
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1866
Relationship:Daughter
Father's Name:Charles Coutts <<Magishate Draper (Empl 3 Men 2 Boys & 2 Women)
Gender:Female
Where born:Falkirk, Stirlingshire
Registration number:479/1
Registration District:Falkirk Burgh
Civil Parish:Falkirk Burgh
Town:Falkirk
County:Stirlingshire
Address:Pleasance Gardens
Occupation:Scholar
ED:13
Household Schedule Number:40
Line:16
Roll:cssct1881_134
Household Members:
Charles Coutts 45 Jane Coutts 15 John Coutts 11 David Coutts 8 Margaret Murray 52 Housekeeper
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13 Dec 2013 06:53 |
Mis-transcribed
1871 Scotland Census
Name:Charles Colite
Age:35
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1836
Relationship:Head
Spouse's name :Isabella Colite
Gender:Male
Where born:Firfarsta
Registration number:479/1
Registration District:Falkirk Burgh
Civil Parish:Falkirk Burgh
County:Stirlingshire
Address:Pleasance Gar
Occupation:Mirchan F Eaper
ED:6
Household Schedule Number:245
Line:6
Roll:CSSCT1871_83
Household Members:
Charles Colite 35 Isabella Colite 36 August A Colite 11 Jane R Colite 2 Charles A Colite 3 John M Colite 1 Isabella Fergeson 24 John McEman 36
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13 Dec 2013 07:04 |
Do you have this?
U.S., Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1795-1972 (World Archives Project)
Name:Jane Rankin Coulte Struthers
Age:52
Birth Date:6 Oct 1868
Birth Location:Scotland
Spouse:George
Arrival Year:1914
Issue Date:30 Mar 1921
State:California
Locality, Court:Southern District, Central Division, Los Angeles, California, District Court
Record Type:Petition for Naturalization
This record is mentioned on the above record
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name:Jane R C Struthers <<Housekeeper
Gender:Female
Age:41
Birth Date:abt 1873
Departure Date:24 Oct 1914
Port of Departure:Liverpool, England
Destination Port:New York, USA
Ship Name:Lusitania
Shipping Line:Cunard Line
Official Number:124082
Master:D Dow
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13 Dec 2013 07:14 |
Birth date differs but this looks like her death
California, Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Jane Struthers[Jane Coutts]
Gender:Female
Birth Date:1 Jan 1865
Birth Place:Other Country
Death Date:26 Mar 1945
Death Place:Los Angeles
Mother's Maiden Name:Masterton
Father's Surname:Coutts
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13 Dec 2013 08:51 |
Name: Mrs Jane Struthers Gender: Female Age: 38 Birth Date: abt 1869 Departure Date: 12 Jul 1907 Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland Destination Port: Montreal, Canada Ship Name: Cassandra Search Ship Database: Search the 'Cassandra' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: Donaldson Line Master: John Mitchell
travelling with William aged 15, John aged 13 and Jane aged 9.
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MargaretM
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13 Dec 2013 10:44 |
On this one she's going to join her brother John M. Coutts, Pasadena, California.
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Jane R Coutts Struthers Name: Jane R Coutts Struthers Arrival Date: 31 Oct 1914 Birth Date: abt 1873 Birth Location: Scotland Birth Location Other: falkuk Age: 41 Gender: Female Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish) Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Lusitania Search Ship Database: Search the Lusitania in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
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MargaretM
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13 Dec 2013 10:54 |
On the 1930 US census she gives father's birthplace as Indiana. Could that be right?
1930 United States Federal Census about Jane R Struthers Name: Jane R Struthers Gender: Female Birth Year: abt 1866 Birthplace: Scotland Race: White Home in 1930: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California Map of Home: View map Marital Status: Widowed Immigration Year: 1888 Relation to Head of House: Lodger Father's Birthplace: Indiana Mother's Birthplace: Scotland
Parents' birthplace: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harry C Bowers 69 Blanche Bowers 49 Ada M Bowers 18 Jane R Struthers 64 Thelma Emery 27 Mrytle Root 49 [29]
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Chris Ho :)
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13 Dec 2013 11:03 |
http://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html
(do you have the Marriage Cert?)
Chris :)
1871 (Find My Past version) COUTS, Charles Head Married M 35 1836 Merchant Draper Forfarshire N/A COUTS, Isabella Wife Married F 36 1835 Larbert, Stirlingshire N/A COUTS, Alexander A Son Unmarried M 11 1860 Scholar Midlothian N/A COUTS, Jane R Daughter Unmarried F 5 1866 Scholar Falk, Stirlingshire N/A COUTS, Charles A Son M 3 1868 Falk, Stirlingshire N/A COUTS, John M Son M 1 1870 Falk, Stirlingshire N/A FERGUSON, Isabella Servant Unmarried F 24 1847 Serv Dom Falk, Stirlingshire N/A MCEWAN, John Boarder Unmarried M 36 1835 Merchant Assis Crieff, Perthshire N/A Piece: 479 Folio: 6 Page: 42 Registration District: Falkirk Civil Parish: Falkirk Municipal Borough: Address: Pleasance Gard, Falkirk County: Stirlingshire
(as Margee found, is she widowed?) First Name: Jane R. Coutts Last Name: Struthers Ethnicity: England, Scottish Last Place of Residence: Melbourne, Australia Date of Arrival: Oct 31, 1914 Age at Arrival: 41y Gender: F Marital Status: W Ship of Travel: Lusitania Port of Departure: Liverpool Manifest Line Number: 0014
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passSearch.asp?MID=10187717480166751904&
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Chris Ho :)
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13 Dec 2013 11:34 |
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y
The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1889 - 1931) Thursday 12 August 1909 p 2 Advertising IN THE ESTATE OF GEORGE STRUTHERS late of Broken Hill
(not sure if above him)
Chris :)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/page/4491020
(maybe another, age 52 1908)
Name: George Struthers Death Date: 1908 Death Place: New South Wales Father's Name: Henry Mother's Name: Jane Registration Year: 1908 Registration Place: Broken Hill, New South Wales Registration number: 8895
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh.html
Purchase Certificate 8895/1908 STRUTHERS GEORGE HENRY JANE BROKEN HILL
(Burial below)
http://www.bhcemetery.com.au/index.php
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MargaretM
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13 Dec 2013 11:59 |
Her brother?
1930 United States Federal Census about John M Coutts Name: John M Coutts Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1873 Birthplace: Scotland Race: White Home in 1930: South Pasadena, Los Angeles, California Map of Home: View map Marital Status: Married Immigration Year: 1893 Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Susanah H Coutts Father's Birthplace: Scotland Mother's Birthplace: Scotland Occupation:
Parents' birthplace: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John M Coutts 57 Susanah H Coutts 57 Charles A Coutts 18
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13 Dec 2013 12:06 |
John Masterton Coutts Birth: Feb. 2, 1870 Death: Apr. 23, 1943 Burial: Forest Lawn Memorial Park (Glendale) (also other Coutts) Glendale Los Angeles County California, USA
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi
Chris :)
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13 Dec 2013 12:29 |
Jane Rankine Coutts, "Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950" Name: Jane Rankine Coutts Gender: Female Christening Date: Christening Place: Birth Date: 06 Oct 1865 Birthplace: FALKIRK,STIRLING,SCOTLAND Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Charles Coutts Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Isabella Masterton Or Anderson Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11479-1 System Origin: Scotland-ODM GS Film number: 6035516 Reference ID:
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13 Dec 2013 12:32 |
Name: Charles Coutts Birth Date: Birthplace: Age: Spouse's Name: Isabella Masterton Spouse's Birth Date: Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: Event Date: 26 Apr 1864 Event Place: Larbert,Stirling,Scotland Father's Name: Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11485-1 System Origin: Scotland-ODM GS Film number: 6035516 Reference ID:
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ArgyllGran
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13 Dec 2013 12:50 |
On the 1930 US Census posted by Margee above, the Ancestry transcriber has assumed the head of the household (born Indiana) was Jane's father, which is not the case.
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Elizabeth
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14 Dec 2013 00:21 |
Thank you all so much for your help and information. I am very grateful Now I will try and get copies of the certficates and hope to find any descendents as they might have photos or documents
Elizabeth
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Cherilyn
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23 Dec 2013 07:18 |
From NLA Trove - I don't think the NSW death is the right George
Chronicle, Saturday 20 January 1906 Mr. George Struthers, of the Semaphore, while out on the Port River with a fishing party on Thursday, January 11, unfortunately lost his life. While fishing the boat drifted, and Mr. Struthers, in attempting to throw out an anchor, overbalanced and fell into the water. It was some minutes before the body rose to the surface, and all efforts to restore life were unavailing.
Also http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article55646967
Strangely the death and funeral notice show him to be Alexander Bremner STRUTHERS - but his wife was Elizabeth (m. 1887 Port Adelaide). They had 3 children.
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Elizabeth
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24 Dec 2013 00:18 |
Thank you Cherilyn all information is helpful Elizabeth
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Gee
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24 Dec 2013 06:51 |
So these are two different people.
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name:Alexander Bremner Struthers
Father's Name:Joseph Struthers
Spouse Name:Elizabeth Wills
Spouse's Father's Name:Henry Wills
Marriage Date:3 May 1887
Marriage Place:Port Adelaide
Registration Place:Port Adelaide, South Australia
Page Number:354
Volume Number:151 ---------------------------------------------------------------
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name:George Struthers
Father's Name:Henry Struthers
Spouse Name:Jane Rankine Coutts
Spouse's Father's Name:Charles Coutts
Marriage Date:29 Aug 1899
Marriage Place:Semaphore
Registration Place:Port Adelaide, South Australia
Page Number:695
Volume Number:200
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